Was the guy who killed (abortion doctor) Dr. Tiller a terrorist?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Danr, Jun 1, 2009.

  1. Midas

    Midas New Member

    If a "true" muslim commits jihad in the name of his allah (as he shouts "Allah Akbar" meaning "God is great") and is simply following the koranic passages found in the muslim hatebook (the koran)...how can YOU NOT call him a muslim terrorist??

    Muslims will try to convince you that suicide is against the koran, but forget to tell you that killing yourself for their allah is highly rewarding...72 virgins plus eternal paradise.

    For every abortion doctor killing, there are 1,000's of muslims that are fighting and killing infidels simply because they are being "true" muslims.

    The worst part is that so-called "moderate" muslims dismiss these muslim terrorist crimes and simply turn away when they happen.
     
  2. Danr

    Danr New Member

    The great thing about Obama is that he is reaching out the the vast majority of Muslims who are reasonable people. If we can get this majority on board we can marginalize the extremist.
    watch this
     
  3. craig a

    craig a New Member

    So do you have a solution? Other than the final one.
     
  4. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    I have to ask were you get this 72 virgins from? I know the Koran mentions Paradise and possibly 72 wives and 80 thousand servants, palaces etc LOL but Virgins!!
    Now as for shouting God Is Great etc whats so new or strange about that have not religiouse fanatics done the same for centuries? (Yes even Christians) Remember Helmet messages that read 'Kill A Gook for Christ'
    Are you sure that you are not a convert away from Islam? I have to ask this as you seem to try to turn any thread you enter into one about Muslims and as they say there is nothing worse than a convert.
     
  5. Midas

    Midas New Member

    Use some logic here...

    The evidence - the only evidence - proves beyond any doubt that "true" muslims are terrorists because mohammad (spit on him), islam's lone prophet who didn't produce an heir, and allah's so-called singular voice, was a ruthless and dedicated terrorist and pedophile himself. History is clear on this.

    Islamic militants, which liberal appeasers call "insurgents" today, are actually good muslims, not bad ones. The jihadists haven't corrupted islam, hijacked their religion, nor interpreted it incorrectly, and therefore they aren't radicals. Islam isn't a peaceful religion; it is a declaration of war against all mankind if you do not submit and surrender to their way of life and religion.

    While bad muslims can be moderate and peaceful, they have no influence because the koran tells "true" and "good" muslims to kill them. Their texts are clear and better yet, their actions and history all support this madness.

    *****************************

    As for the 72 Virgins, You are right...there is nothing in the koran that specifically states that msulim animals are allotted 72 virgins apiece when they die in jihad.

    Hold on...you have to turn to the muslim's hadith which are traditional sayings and writings traced all the way back to the terrorist prophet himself.

    For the record: Hadith #2562 (in the collection known as the Sunan al-Tirmidhi) says, "The least [reward] for the people of Heaven is 80,000 servants and 72 wives, over which stands a dome of pearls, aquamarine and ruby."

    This is a great recruiting tool for your typical rag-head loser muslim that has no life (like many of the animals that convert to islam is prison) because no matter how many people they kill or rape...as long as you submit to islam and kill for allah, you cut right to the front of the line and enter muslim paradise with 72 virgins and all.

    Get it?
     
  6. Midas

    Midas New Member

    Good question...

    We can only hope that more and more muslims are becoming disillusioned with islam. We can only hope that they find out that the mechanistic ritual of praying and banging your head five times per day, reciting verses that they do not understand (and indeed mean nothing), getting up at taxing hours of the morning and abstaining from food and water until the sunset are not means to becoming more spiritual, but are in fact instruments to control their mind.

    Hopefully, these enlightened muslims no more heed to the fear mongering verses of the koran that threaten to burn them and roast them in the "fires of hell" (per the koran) if they dare to think and question the validity of that book.

    We can only hope they find islam inconsistent with science, logics, human rights and ethics.

    This is a reason why "true" islamic countries are trying to crack down on the internet and other avenues of information that threaten all of the misgivings that have been pounded into these people's head for the last 1,400 years.

    But if that doesn't work...we are going to have to take the same type of action this country took back in WWII when we were fighting an enemy that WANTED to die in honor on the battlefiled for their emperor...that is, shoot them twice to make sure they are dead (as per my great Uncle who fought those *******s on Iwo Jima)...

    Otherwise, they will keep on coming and coming. When you fight against religious nut jobs like the Japs of WWII and today's "true" muslims, all bets are off.
     
  7. craig a

    craig a New Member

    Everything you just posted can be linked to the christian Bible.
     
  8. Midas

    Midas New Member

    Nice try...let's examine your assertion:

    Many appeasing muslim apologists prefer to believe that all religion is either equally bad or equally good, and eagerly devour anything that seems to support this preconception. This myth usually works to islam’s advantage as well, since it either raises it to the level of others, or brings i the others down to islam.

    To compete with Western religion, muslim apologists vigorously employ verse 5:32 from their koran, which is the closest thing they have to the Old Testament command of ‘Thou shalt not kill.”

    It reads, in part:

    “…if any one slew a person… it would be as if he slew a whole people; and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of a whole people…”.

    The Truth:

    Oh goodness… if only the terrorist handbook koran stopped right there!


    Think about it...What would the world be like without the millions of muslims eager to commit mass murder in the name of their religion across the globe each day? Think of the lives, money and heartache that would be spared if mohammad had commanded muslims to cherish human life as you find in Judeo-Christian faithes.

    Unfortunately, nothing could be further from the truth. This fragment of verse 5:32 is what Muslim apologists want non-Muslims to believe is in the loran, rather than the dozens of other open-ended passages that command warfare, beheadings and torture. But even what they usually quote from 5:32 isn’t quite how it appears. Remember all those ellipses?

    There's something conviently being left out...

    Here’s the full text of the verse:

    “On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our messengers with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land.”

    First, notice the gaping muslim loophole. Killing is allowed in cases of murder or “for spreading mischief in the land.” Murder is pretty straightforward, but “spreading mischief?” If anything begged for a careful and precise explanation, this phrase certainly would. But generations of Muslims are left to apply their own interpretation of what “mischief” means. (Needless to say, the standards vary).

    Secondly, note the broader context of this verse. It turns out that this isn’t a command to Muslims after all. It’s a recounting of a rule that was handed down to the Jews. It isn’t an admonition against killing. It’s an indictment against Jews for violating God’s law. “Any one” doesn’t mean “anyone,” but rather “any one” of the Jews.

    Rather than encouraging tolerance, Sura 5 as a whole is actually an incitement of hatred with a hint of violence. Jews and Christians are explicitly cursed as ‘wicked’ people with ‘diseased hearts’ and as hateful ‘blasphemers,’ respectively. The terrorist mohammad goes on to coyly remind his people that Allah loves those who “fight” in his service (and it’s fairly obvious who the enemy is).

    Muslims also conveniently leave out the fact that the verse which follows 5:32 actually mandates killingin the case of the aforementioned “mischief.” It even suggests crucifixion and “the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides.”

    With this being the best that Islam has to offer, it’s not hard to guess why this religion contributes over a 1,000 deadly terrorist attacks each year.

    Nice try...
     
  9. craig a

    craig a New Member

    You are really a mess, man.
     
  10. Midas

    Midas New Member

    That's all you got? Name calling? Show me where I am wrong...

    I have the koran, their texts, their history and better yet, their ACTIONS to back my claims, what do you have other than personal attacks on me instead of the subject matter?

    Good luck!
     
  11. clembo

    clembo Well-Known Member

    Midas your arguments and "proof" get old. It's no diffrent than people that have a Bible and interpret it the way they want.
    Hey God Hates Fags. Let's start a website about it - oh it's already been done.

    It ain't the books dude it's how people interpret them. Gonna tell me EVERY Muslim looks at the Koran the same way YOU do? If so you have proven yourself to be one of the people you rail against. No other way to put it.

    Oh and you have their ACTIONS. Big frigging deal. Look at what "Christians" have done in the past.
     
  12. Midas

    Midas New Member

    Christians and what they did...you mean the Crusades?

    Apparently Christians were getting tired of getting robbed, raped, and murdered as they made their way to the Holy lands by...you guessed it...MUSLIM ANIMALS that they finally had enough and went after these people.

    But if you want to go back a 1,000 years, so be it.

    Why don't you look at the last 100 years now that muslim animals have the money (oil) to pay for better weapons to wage their jihad.

    BTW...when was the last time you heard a Christian, Hindu, Or Jew hold one of their holy texts and want to fight/die for their religion?? Here is just a small sampling of muslim animals that are simply following the koran and the life and terrorism of their founding prophet.

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    Good luck trying to make your point...I have their koran, their history and YES, their ACTIONS to support my claims. What do you have?
     
  13. craig a

    craig a New Member

    Will you stop with the hatred already. You wacky muslim, you.
     
  14. Midas

    Midas New Member

    Wonderful comeback...I look forward to your next syllabel with great anticipation.

    The turth hurts doesn't it...you can't defend your position as I go after the muslim animal movement, so you resort to attacking the author...personally.
     
  15. Danr

    Danr New Member

    You may not have gotten the memo but the big threat these days are right wing extremists not Muslims. Muslim extremists are sooo 2006.
     
  16. Midas

    Midas New Member

    As you stick your head in the sand and apologize for the religion of islam, these animals are breeding another generation of hate, forced conversion and stacks of dead bodies.

    ******************

    Here's a great article that just ran in the N.Y. Post:

    WELL-MEANING Western commentators make a grave error when they insist that Islamist terrorists want to drag the Muslim world back to the seventh century.

    It's much worse than that.

    Al Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, the Taliban and related fanatics really want to take their homelands (and the rest of the world) back beyond the era of Mohammed - to the grisly ancient days of human sacrifice.

    The Prophet sought to purify the idolatrous devotions of his people, to do away with heartless desert cults. He felt the fervor of one living god and shared his illumination. The faith that arose in his wake had epochs of glory and eras of infamy, but it endured.

    Now Islam is under assault from within, under attack from nominal Muslims who believe their vision supersedes that of Mohammed. They invoke the name of Allah but behave in the manner of ancient priests whose robes were drenched in blood.

    What's the meaning of those beheading videos and suicide bombings, the slaughter of fellow Muslims and the exploitation by pagan cults, such as Hamas, of masses of the faithful as human shields? Why stone 13-year-old girls to death? What's this celebration of blood lust all about?

    It's about the threatened collapse of the Middle East back into an age of human sacrifice - the precise sort of gruesome travesty the Prophet inveighed against.

    Today's "Muslim" terrorists have nothing to do with Islam's golden ages. They belong to the days of winged devil-gods and stone altars stinking of clotted human blood.

    The true enemies of Islam aren't Americans or Europeans or even Israelis, all of whom could not care less what backwater Middle Easterners call their god. The worst enemies of the Muslim faith are the butchers convinced that Allah demands that rivers of blood be shed to praise his name.

    The reluctance of many Muslims to speak out against this travesty - this perversion - of their faith has various causes. In North America, it's largely the age-old fear of the new arrival, unsure of his place in a foreign society and wary of alienating members of his immigrant community.

    [​IMG]

    You think islamic terrorism stopped in 2006??

    Tell that to the new generation of jihadist being raised to follow the koran, the life and misdeeds of their prophet and the history of islam.
     
  17. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    The article I believe states quite clearly that these people are not real muslims so what is your point?
     
  18. Midas

    Midas New Member

    You are not under an Rx drugs, are you??
     
  19. Danr

    Danr New Member

    Midas, even Michael Savage had a Muslim on his show the other day. You are further out than Savage (if that is possible!)
     
  20. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    Direct quote from what YOU POSTED, now I assume that you actualy took the time to read what YOU POSTED?

    Today's "Muslim" terrorists have nothing to do with Islam's golden ages. They belong to the days of winged devil-gods and stone altars stinking of clotted human blood.

    The true enemies of Islam aren't Americans or Europeans or even Israelis, all of whom could not care less what backwater Middle Easterners call their god. The worst enemies of the Muslim faith are the butchers convinced that Allah demands that rivers of blood be shed to praise his name.



    Now what does that say to you? well to me the writer is saying rather clearly that those who kill in the name of Islam are the enemies of the Islamic faith, therefore they can not be Muslims now can they?

    Now dont go accusing me of been on drugs, YOU POSTED IT and if you dont have the inteligence to understand what YOU POSTED then I am sorry but that is YOUR FAULT not mine.
     

Share This Page