Felony Murder

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  1. PTD
    Fiendish

    PTD Administrator Moderator

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony_murder_rule

    Two armed criminals charge into a coin shop and attempt to rob the place at gunpoint. The coin shop guys take one of the criminals out during the shootout that follows. Can the surviving criminal be charged with felony murder?
     
  2. Stu Joe

    Stu Joe New Member

    I hope so.

    Truthfully, I wish that he could be executed immediately after trial. Armed robbery should be a death penalty crime.
     
  3. craig a

    craig a New Member

    Jeez, Stu. Should jay walking carry a life sentence? The punishment must fit the crime. Thats one of the good or bad things about living in America. I belive the law states that if someone is killed during a robbery; the ones commiting the robbery can be charged with homicide. Seems fair to me.
     
  4. Stu Joe

    Stu Joe New Member

    Sorry, but I think there is a fundamental difference between simple robbery, burglary, mugging, etc (or jaywalking if you want to be silly about it) and using something like a loaded gun in an armed robbery.

    If you are committing armed robbery with a plainly and obviously deadly weapon, I think it is a death sentence. My heart just doesn't bleed for someone who would have the ability in them to do that. It is a whole 'nother ballgame between something like that and other crimes. And I think that punishment does indeed fit that crime.
     
  5. craig a

    craig a New Member

    It has nothing to do with bleeding hearts. I agree murder should be punished by death. Well lets say premeditated murder. But armed robbery, that is, stealing from someone at the point of a gun or with a knife, that leaves no one physically harmed should not be punished by death. By your definition, someone who beats up another and then robs him should only be given a jail term, even though harm came to the victim. recently you stated that Madoff should be denied water and slowly died. While that may be satisfying to his victims; he didnt really kill anyone and therefore the death sentence would seem too harsh. Same as with armed robbery. Dont get angry with me. Blame the authors of the Magna Carta. The oringinal blueprint for jursit prudence.
     
  6. Stu Joe

    Stu Joe New Member

    I think if one takes a loaded gun into a robbery, they have already made up their mind that they are willing to kill someone. Otherwise, the gun wouldn't be loaded. The bullets aren't there to scare anyone. An unloaded weapon will do that. The bullets are only there to kill. Oh and attempted murder should be a death sentence too.

    I just don't buy into the no harm, no foul thinking. But, I would be satisfied with life imprisonment without parole too for armed robbery. Not as satisfied, but satisfied enough. See how enlightened I can be. ;)

    And I am not angry with you. Neither of us is going to change any laws. :D

    BTW: I don't think I was the one that said that about Madoff but, if I did, I was joking. However, I think that was Scottishmoney. I'm too lazy to go make sure, though, and it does sound like something I would make a crack about. lol
     
  7. clembo

    clembo Well-Known Member

    There was gunfire involved so the perps came into the store intending to use "if they had to" IMHO. So yes, he should face felony murder charges.

    The shop workers had the gall to fight back and put one of the scumbags six feet under. It's not like they went out looking for trouble. Trouble came in looking for them.

    I'm not sure if the surving scumbag fired any shots but if he did I hope he at least gets one hell of a nice long stay in prison. At that point he meant to kill.
     
  8. craig a

    craig a New Member

    Hey. I agree with tthe law. As I stated, if a death occurs during a robbery, all perpetrators are accused of murder. That works for me. I didnt write no harm no foul. By harm I meant bodily harm. I was just citing the law when it comes to punishment.
     
  9. arizonaJack

    arizonaJack Well-Known Member

    YES He should be charged with felony murder.
     
  10. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    What happens if a day or a hour later the victim drops dead of a heart attack? the simple truth of the matter is that if you point a gun at another person no matter if it is loaded or not it will cause seriouse mental stress and quite possibly health problems for that person, it is a very traumatic event. The vicitm has no idea if the perp has a loaded wepon, if he intends harm or not all the victim will feel is fear. If not the death penelty then a minimum of life in prison without any possibility of parole.
     

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