"The “promises” that Plaintiff identifies are statements of principle and intent in the political realm. They are not enforceable promises under contract law. Indeed, our political system could not function if every political message articulated by a campaign could be characterized as a legally binding contract enforceable by individual voters. Of course, voters are free to vote out of office those politicians seen to have breached campaign promises. Federal courts, however, are not and cannot be in the business of enforcing political rhetoric." This is a load of B.S. Thankfully the case is in your favor so you can think you've really got something here. Maybe America can win next time? So the judge basically is comparing Obama's display of his b.c. as a political message articulated by his campaign, that cannot be characterized as a legally binding contract, like any other political message? Because that's all this case is about. Well, I guess that clears that up. I feel better now! Not. The only other explanation would be that the judge is referring to plaintiff and is trying to accuse him of bringing forth a political message for a campaign. The last time I checked, Berg the lifelong Democrat, was not campaigning for McCain. So I guess that leaves us with liberal non-sense being spewed once again, diverting attention from the topic at hand. To me it's a bunch of spin from a judge that was scared to death of doing anything else with the case. It was dismissed on the idea that he did not have standing. A very convenient, fabricated, 'out' for Obama and Co.
What I don't understand is why the Presidential candidates don't have to provide proof when they register as a candidate. Or do they?
I don't know. I'll have to wait for Toad. He's the expert of this Federal Election Committee and their duties.
Dang! What other negative labels can you come up with so as not to have to use the N word? I swear, the garbage that comes out of a closed mind is inversely purportional to what goes in. Ribbit
If you read the dismissal, you would have seen he sued for FOI violations from the FEC (Federal Election Commission) which is who you file with in order to run for federal office and they require all candidates to prove they are eligible for the office they are running for and they verify all documents are authentic and then they certify the person as eligible. So the FEC has certified Barack as eligible but this guy says he isn't eligible? What did the dismissal say was his foundation for asserting this belief? Various accounts, details, and ambiguities from Obama’s childhood form the basis of Plaintiff’s allegation that Obama is not a natural born citizen of the United States. To support his contention, Plaintiff cites sources as varied as the Rainbow Edition News Letter, (id. ¶ 39), and the television news tabloid Inside Edition (id. ¶ 45). These sources and others lead Plaintiff to conclude that Obama is either a citizen of his father’s native Kenya, by birth there or through operation of U.S. law; or that Obama became a citizen of Indonesia by relinquishing his prior citizenship (American or Kenyan) when he moved there with his mother in 1967. Either way, in Plaintiff’s opinion, Obama does not have the requisite qualifications for the Presidency that the Natural Born Citizen Clause mandates. I'm wondering if he also used the anything from The National Enquirer? It's easy to see this guy is a fruitcake but since birds of a feather flock together, Vess has decided to make this an issue so it is now an issue but the problem with Vess is, he thinks if it doesn't end up with removing Barack from contention, it was a cover-up. That is a lunatic's perspective so Vess really should seek professional assistance. Ribbit
I thought the FEC just handled the campaign finance side of the elections. The only thing I could find about the FEC is that they verify eligibility for public funding. But, since Obama opted out of public funding, that would not apply. Can you point me to where the FEC verifies candidate eligibility besides for public funding?
Yup Toad. It's just me and Berg that are concerned. There aren't thousands of others out there clamoring to know and hoping the Supreme court will sprout a pair and look into this. Are you implying that Obama DIDN"T leave the U.S. and grow up in Indonesia as stated in his own book? During which time you had to be an Indonesian CITIZEN in order to go to their schools? Does anyone know how exactly he got back to the U.S.? Anything on file at all, with anyone? Look that one up. I'll look as well. I don't need a story from you. I need to know where I can find this information.
You found that at fec.gov? This is all I found: "In 1975, Congress created the Federal Election Commission (FEC) to administer and enforce the Federal Election Campaign Act (FECA) - the statute that governs the financing of federal elections. The duties of the FEC, which is an independent regulatory agency, are to disclose campaign finance information, to enforce the provisions of the law such as the limits and prohibitions on contributions, and to oversee the public funding of Presidential elections." Toad, where did you get your information? Looks like it's back to the drawing board for you.
Thats easy to do. Maybe there is dual citizenship there, like in Ireland where you dont have to give up your US citizenship.
Actually I didn't but I researched it further, including the site above, and by what I can tell, that while the constitution calls for qualifications, there are no federal laws governing it. Which means it is possible that neither McCain nor Obama were qualified to run for President. However, in my research, I did find that each candidate has to file with each state, so it is on the states to determine qualifications, or so it would appear. What do you know about this? Ribbit
Can I ask just how old Obama was when he went to Indonesia? then ask how old you have to be to give up your citizanship? Reason I ask is that I have seen it mentioned in a number of places that HE gave it up? I would have thought he was a minor so unable to do this?
