Obama Is Our Next President!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Toad, Nov 4, 2008.

  1. arizonaJack

    arizonaJack Well-Known Member

    Rabbit
    I'll think your young, Bush 43 was far from the conservative, far far away from the principles set forth by Reagan and Goldwater
     
  2. Toad

    Toad New Member

    Amen! :D

    For those that do not like Obama, do you like Hilary more? :rolleyes:

    Ribbit :)
     
  3. Stu Joe

    Stu Joe New Member

    Bush is not a Conservative. And no way is Obama a move 'towards center'. He is so far left of center, I doubt he can see it from where he is at.
     
  4. craig a

    craig a New Member

    Bring back Herbert Hoover. Now he was a conservative. And look what happened there.
     
  5. Stu Joe

    Stu Joe New Member

    Naw. But we might try another Jimmy Carter instead. A nice enough guy but not exactly a what we need. ;)
     
  6. arizonaJack

    arizonaJack Well-Known Member

    The conservatives need a strong leader and a message.
    A return to Reagan, Goldwater type principles, another " Contract with America" Gingrich style.

    With the upcoming return of the Fairness Doctrine, it will be difficult to get that message out.
     
  7. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    The 8 years of George Bush were awfully good for the Obamas! Look where Obama was in 2000- denied access to the dem convention, too broke to rent a car to get back home. Fast forward through the Bush years & here he is, annioted President of the same country his wife is ashamed of. Pretty good 8 years, wouldn't you say? In addition, Obama didn't achieve it by relying on the government...so why does he advocate it for everyone else??? Hmmm...

    A couple other questions:
    Does it hint of racism when 95% of blacks vote for Obama.
    Why is Obama trumpeted as the "first black President" when he is as much white as he is black? Apparently it was the young, single, white mother (who didn't have an abortion when faced with an early pregnancy) and her family who raised Obama, right? So why the racist comments from Obama? The black branches of the family tree are the ones who apparently have been shunned. Why??
    Did you notice Obama on election night already begin to back up by stating it could be a year or beyond his first term before things get done? Really? I thought he claimed to be prepared to rule on Day 1?
     
  8. Stu Joe

    Stu Joe New Member

    90 plus percent of blacks have voted for white guys (Democrats) for decades. Do you think they were going to suddenly flock to John McCain? Really? lol
     
  9. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Who else got that kind of black support? If true, I'll wager they didn't get as many firt-timers out to vote.
    My concern is that the 95% voted for Obama ONLY because they saw him as black...doesn't that smack of racism to you?

    Did anyone see the Howard Stern man-on-the-street interviews where he flip-flopped the McCain/Obama policies & asked people what they thought? The people supported the war when told Obama was pro-war...they thought Palin was a good choice when they thought she was Obama's VP, etc.
     
  10. Midas

    Midas New Member

    Yeah...he abandoned conservative principles and RAISED marginal tax rates and drove us deeper into the depression. A real conservative understands you CANNOT tax yourself into prosperity!

    The same is true of B.O.'s "Hooveresque" vision of raising corporate taxes by 25% (in the guise of closing loopholes and tax havens), and of trying to raise income, payroll and investment tax rates for those who already bear most of the federal tax burden. Remember...the top 50% wage earners ALREADY pay 97% of all taxes collected by our wondeful government (source: IRS, look it up!)

    Now a little history lesson for our B.O. lovers out there...

    At the end of 1931, President Herbert Hoover asked for a "temporary" (no such thing when you think about it) tax increase, saying it was "indispensable to the restoration of confidence." Something we heard from Bush and Congress.

    Congress went along in 1932, raising the top income tax rate from 25% to 63% and quadrupling the lowest tax rate from 1.1% to 4%. That didn't help confidence or the Treasury. Matter of fact, it BACKFIRED! Revenue from the individual income tax dropped from $834 million in 1931 to $427 million in 1932 and $353 million in 1933.

    This is all part of our US History. Go ahead, look it up! Numbers are real...unless you are a inner city liberal who believe 2+2=5 because you "feel" it equals 5, based on you social-economic situation. :)

    Remember...It was Hoover who abandoned conservative tax principles and still...people are who are so stupid about history are sure to repeat it...like B.O.!!
     
  11. Midas

    Midas New Member

    B.O. was the most liberal of all U.S. Senators. You can't judge these people by their talk, you have to judge them by their actions:


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    Not bad for a Senator with less than two years of experience.

    Wait, let's make him a U.S. President...OMG, we did!!

     
  12. Stu Joe

    Stu Joe New Member

    Kerry got 88% of the black vote and you don;t get any whiter than John Kerry. lol

    I don't know how you figure 95% voted for him because he is black when 90% would have voted for him if he was white?

    Also, Obama may have got more of the white vote than Kerry did.
     
  13. mrbrklyn

    mrbrklyn New Member



    I don't agree with that at all. Bush was facing a large increase in government spending as a result of 9-11 regardless of political philosophy. Over the last 8 years the Government had spent an enormous amount of money for basic defense, a core conservative value. You can argue that Iraq was an expensive and unnecessary move, but I strongly disagree. The result of the Bush foreign policy has been 8 years of near perfect quite on the domestic side while the brilliant pacifiers of Islamic fundamentalism and the counter middle eastern tyrants have wrecked havoc on Europe including Spain, and France.

    The pacifism and xenophobic non-intraventionalist agenda is a liberal and Democratic platform and always has been.

    The minute Obama pulls the troops out of Iraq he's going to be uncorking pan-Arabic anti-American saber rattling which is going to result in another attack on the US, and an even larger one than the WTC attack.

    When they chose to nuke us, I hope it is WASHINGTON and not NYC this time.

    Ruben
     
  14. Midas

    Midas New Member

    Have to get the Dems credit. After 2000 and because they were too stupid to vote correctly here in Florida (you should have HEARD some of their excuses), they made it a point to register everybody and anybody with a pulse.

    These new voters hoped for change and changed for hope. I don't know what that means, but it can win you an election if you run...anyways,

    There were alot more democratic signups versus republicans. With all of the early voting and new Fisher Price voting machines for democrats in Florida, they won.

    BTW...Dems did not like these because they don't have a paper trail:

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  15. Stu Joe

    Stu Joe New Member

    The problem with an interventionist, nation building ideaology is that there are more problem natons that even we can ever tackle. Not to mention when you intervene and then try to build the wrong one (Iraq, for example), you just waste time, money and resources. Soon, it is your own nation that needs building back up.
     
  16. vess1

    vess1 "Birds of a feather...."

    Midas: ROFLMAO!!!! Every state needs one of those. They'd still find a way to 'F' it up though. lol And these are the people nominating a president. Maybe we WOULD be better off with a dictator. At least there wouldn't be the problems, anxiety, and unknowns. lol!
     
  17. craig a

    craig a New Member

    Give it a rest already. We all know what you think by now.
     
  18. craig a

    craig a New Member

    Yes. Thats what the Iraqis are saying. Ironic that the only person who could keep that country in check was the one the executed.
     
  19. Stu Joe

    Stu Joe New Member

    The only one? Blah. I think any old dictator could do it. As long as he had a couple of crazy sons or any other similar psychopathic minions.
     
  20. craig a

    craig a New Member

    Oh, um I stand corrected. Ya gotta admit, he had it down pretty good.
     

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