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Discussion in 'Religion' started by David, Oct 8, 2008.

  1. stainless

    stainless New Member


    nope, it's stainless...


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  2. Stu Joe

    Stu Joe New Member

  3. stainless

    stainless New Member

    It is everyones choice.......that's that

    it's crap like this that turned me into an agnostic, I may go back now.

    Nobady cares about what the religous have to say on the subject, mainly because they are trying to do it without a proven god.


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  4. Stu Joe

    Stu Joe New Member

    Instead of 'going back', why don't you try Buddhism or Hinduism or Shi'ism or maybe just go ahead and join the Ism Of The Month Club. ;)


    And there are some dead babies who would probably say it is not "everyone's" choice. Well, they'd probably say that if they hadn't been tossed in a closet to die, that is.

    And here is a nice article from the UK:

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article597136.ece
     
  5. Andy

    Andy Well-Known Member

    freedom of choice is to have or not to have sex.
    Abortion is murder.
    and baby killing is a big business/
    sick.
     
  6. stainless

    stainless New Member


    I think rape victims would disagree


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  7. Stu Joe

    Stu Joe New Member

    Personally, I don;t condemn that small number of abortions that are performed because of rape/incest and to save the life of the mother. I can also be ok with very early term abortions where the development is minimal. I also have no problem with the morning after pill and similar things.

    What I have a problem with is abortions of convenience and abortion as birth control where the baby has also obviously developed beyond a hunk of cells or a mass of tissue.

    And when a doctor attempts to abort a baby and it is born breathing anyway and left on a shelf to die, I think that is murder. And my opinion doesn't change if that doctor was able to kill that exact same baby before it makes it into room air.
     
  8. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney ¿Quien sabes?


    I concur with your opin.

    I think the better alternative is to sterilize people that would likely be the ones getting abortions so they can prevent conception in the first place. There are just some people not cut out to have kids but performing abortion should not be the answer, prevention should be. In the absence of sterilisation there should be contraceptives readily available to the miscreants.

    Abortion is too convenient, and can be as easy as going to the hairstylists. It should be something that is only done in the interests of the mother, the child, etc. or in the case of incest etc.
     
  9. scottishmoney

    scottishmoney ¿Quien sabes?

    For a loser bloke that got bannified, he sure likes to rear his snarfy hiney around here still ayes?
     
  10. Andy

    Andy Well-Known Member

    and I am sure that the babies that are murdered and are not the seed of rapist would disagree with the cash cow of the abortion industry.
     
  11. Stu Joe

    Stu Joe New Member

    I was curious about something so I did some researching...

    One study I read said out of 1.3 million abortions in one year in the US, 13,000 were for rape or incest. Basically 1%. Another study I read said mother's health risk was a reason about 4% of the time.

    So, it seems around 5% of abortions are for Rape, Incest or Risk to the mother.
     
  12. stainless

    stainless New Member

    and that 5% is why I am pro-choice..

    i will agree that the women should do the rigth thing if it was consentual...but we do need to be pro-choice for this 5%..it's only fair.


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  13. stainless

    stainless New Member


    I'm sure they wouldn't...do yo have a fetus that would like to argue?


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  14. Andy

    Andy Well-Known Member

    When and if you are married and your wife is carrying a baby inside and you see the ultra sounds you will have a better idea of the horror you so casually accept from the left wing and medical industry.
    Both make money and gain power thru the death of babies.
     
  15. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    Andy abortion has nothing to do with left or right wings, Hitler was quite willing to terminate not only fetus's but children all in the name of science. Abortion today for the most part is a money making machine and big buisness is very rarely run by socialists or the left wing element in society..
     
  16. Stu Joe

    Stu Joe New Member

    I am 'pro choice' but only in limited circumstances and 'pro-life' in the rest. I don't see everything in extremes. Usually the majority of people don't.

    In general, about 20-25% think like you do that it should always be legal and about 10-15% think that it should always be illegal. About 5% fall into the unsure category.

    Typically, the majority of people think that things are often more complicated than black and white, right or left, plus or minus, big or small and have varying opinions of how and why it should be legal or illegal.

    http://www.pollingreport.com/abortion.htm
     
  17. Isa

    Isa Yasu

    I agree with Andy, the left uses it as a power tool with women saying women's rights. It the rallying cry of the leftist who call themselves the feminist movement, it is a money making machince for the leftist planned parenthood, and the doctors who perform the abortions-How many of them do you think are members of the religious right or even centralist. It is a way for the left to get young women not to vote for any conservative candidates democrat of republican by brainwashing them to have sex with anyone at anytime and then just dispose the unborn as if it is garabage and not a life murdered.
     
  18. stainless

    stainless New Member


    You wrote it...now prove god.


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  19. Andy

    Andy Well-Known Member

    Well I hate to speak for someone else but if you asked for proof, just look into a mirror.
    That is the greatest miracle of all. Life.
     
  20. stainless

    stainless New Member


    I see a result of evolution...

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