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Hell yeah...because they would be selling so much of it. Like Wal-Mart, they could afford to sell it for less and still make big profits. The auto industry would be churning out tanks to guzzle it up, etc..etc...

As for Janitors, I have worked as one when I was younger, I did something to improve my situation and now I make more. I have a higher level of skill sets than dragging a broom across the floor. So certainly I think a janitor should make less on average. If they want to make more, they can better themselves. If they cant or choose not to, then they should get raises each year and be kept as long as they do a good job...and maybe they will get promoted to head janitor or something. But I live in a right to work state, which really means a 'right to fire' any employee at any time. No engineer should make less than a Janitor unless they are real bad engineer, or that janitor is about to retire and the engineer is just out of school

 

Well I think you are wrong. I havent seen anything from them that would indicate otherwise. Who isnt buying gas now? As for janitors; how much should they make? Should seamstresses make less? More? What about dishwashers? And why should a journeyman make more than $35 per hour? And if Ford wasnt bound to unions do you think that journeymen would make that?

 

I have, whenever there is security with our reserves the gas has gone down. To be honest I still think its a good deal taking into account what type of network must be supported to get that gas in ones tank, its almost mind-boggling its so complex. When people are less secure, the price goes up, often times through market manipulation and trading...this has become worse through the years.

Janitors should make a wage that is commiserate with the value of the services he provides. How many people can push a broom? How many people can perform brain surgery? Design a skyscraper, paint a masterpiece, design an aircraft. Which one of these group has gone through years of rigorous training in a highly specialized field, which one just filled out an application.

The system is a bit messed up these days as everyone wants to make more but they don't want to earn it in the trenches and work for it and learn and through learning rise to bigger challenges. I was a bus boy, a dishwasher, a janitor, cleaned hotel rooms, picked pecans in east Texas. I wanted more, better pay, so I got grants and some loans and learn more specialized skills and got more money.

IMO, and this is just an opinion...there are jobs that are jobs you DONT want to be at all your life, they are low skill labor and simply is not worth as much because such a larger amount of people can do them with little to no training. These jobs should be stepping stones. not careers. If someone chooses to make them a career, their starting alary should be set in accordance, always keeping a mind to cost of living. So yes, I think I should make more money than the guy who cleans the toilets.

 

Just want to make one point here
You can not force a bank to lend money to anyone, they leand in the hope that they can make a profit. I dont believe that there is any legislation that tells a bank who it HAS TO DEAL WITH (Sorry Jack but you were wrong with that statement )

 

there should be, or if nothing else, there should be a standard set for 'high risk' and if a lender chooses to take on such risks, they take that full risk knowingly and will take the hit alone. Its crazy to give a no income, no asset loan just so you can show on paper you got another sale...its just greed. Fannie and Freddie must say 'you can take all the high interest loans you like, we will not buy them unless there is 30% down.'

 

I would certainly like to see where the janitor at a Ford plant is making 33 bucks per hour. I have my doubts

 

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Some of this makes sense and I'm sure you know Detroit politics better than I do.

Now, do you think Detroit is the ONLY place things like this happen? You know me man. Gary, IN - rusting steel mills which I WILL agree the unions helped kill. Been saying that for years.

Now, are the Unions all run by Liberals? Have they always been run by Liberals? I don't think so.

Unions are another one of those "great in theory" things. Get a guy working in a nasty, dangerous environment that provides a backbone to the economy and that person deserves some decent pay and benefits.

Problem is they got greedy (just like politicians and I don't care what flavor you call the party the vast majority have this trait).

I have seen guys that retired from the mills after 30-40 years of work lose pensions. Now they scramble for minimum wage jobs knowing NOTHING else but the mills. Are these people to blame for finding a secure job that could comfortably support a family 30-40 years ago? You know, like their parents did before the age of computers and globalization? When America was great!?!

They are not idiots to be looked down upon. Remember, these guys did this for years and knew how to do it correctly.

Now, what work is left is run on "skeleton" crews. The chances of accidents are greater and can be fatal. A "happy medium" has not been reached in any way, shape and/or form. Should probably blame the Liberals for this shouldn't we?

How many administrations have we gone through in the last 40 years? ANYONE can pick apart the past. I'm as guilty as anyone else I suppose but I DO inject a dose of realism.

Politics and big business are major players in the situation we are in. Does anyone NOT agree with that?

It's not solely Republicans, Democrats, Conservatives, Neo-Conservatives or Liberals. It's not hard left or hard right. It's a long running combination.

It's always the Liberals to you Level Headed. I find this statement somewhat true but silly as well.

"The liberal schools have graduated ( those who survive ) kids that can't read past 6th grade levels. They are unemployable in all but the most menial of positions, most turn to drug dealing."


So at least 50.00000001% Detroit grads are drug dealers? The Liberals are to blame? What about the parents that may not be drug dealing Liberals? People that may have instilled values in their children.

The statements you make are becoming increasingly "Aidanesque". Just replace the word Catholic with Liberal.

 

Is that what your nephew tells you or do you know it first hand? I mean good for him, no? A piddly job for such a good wage. Do you think if he made $5.55 per hour I could get a Taurus for $7500. I cannot believe democrats are responsible for the ills of Michigan. Thats what it you seem to write. And yet you write you dont blame anyone for you luck or misfortune. But you put all blame on the democrats when a couple of kids cant read.

 

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I would say the main idustry for Mass would be its colleges and technology?

 

We have beer.

 

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