Okay, so most christains think it is a sin if you cuss...but is that really fair..and can you do that? Think about it. God knows your thoughts...therefore if you say dang but was thinking (insert word here)...then he would know... Sooooo.....is it really a sin to cuss? I can use alternatives all day, but I'll still be thinking the words...and if he knows my thoughts it is still a sin so I might as well just say it IMO.. Plus cursing releases anger and I think it is a necessity in life at times. stainless
Do most christians think it is a sin? Or is it just that some people dont like it. With cussing its a case of know ones audience. If you are around people who do not care for cussing, try not to cuss out of politeness maybe or play that kind of music. I dont care if a person cusses though if they cuss a lot then I start thinking...hmmm...this guy cusses a lot But I guess if it is mentioned in the bible as a sin, then I guess it is.
Ok let realy take this apart, the bible says it is a sin to cuss but not a sin to own or beat a slave. Which do you think is right
Cursing can be looked as the devils speech or it can be looked at as blowing off steam. I guess what matters is the context it is being used and where it is being spoken. After all what is approriate in the car while you are driving is not appropriate at a wedding. The old testament said that slaves are to be set free after a certain amount of years and that no one can be brought into slavery. The jewish version called the torah which is not the same as the old testament does not speak of beating anyone if I recall correctlyl. The slavery issue was one of owing a debt and not being a deadbeat rather then other nations of conquering and obtaining/
The bible was written by people that viewed their wives as little more than chattel also. I am sure they beat the proverbial **** out of their wives to keep them in line.
It is been argued that as it is in the bible it must be right for christians LOL well Slavery is in the bible and it has nothing to do with skin colour by the way. So again which is the greater sin keeping slaves or cussin?? “When you buy a Hebrew slave, six years shall he serve; and in the seventh shall he go out free, for nothing. If he came in by himself, he shall go out by himself: if he were married, then his wife shall go out with him. If his master has given him a wife, and she has borne him sons or daughters, the wife and the children shall be her master's, and he shall go out by himself. And if the slave shall plainly say, I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free: then his master shall bring him unto God, and he shall bring him to the door or unto the door-post, and his master shall bore his ear through with an awl, and he shall be his slave forever.” —Exodus 21:2-6. “Slaves, obey your earthly masters with fear and trembling, with a sincere heart, as you would Christ, not by the way of eye-service, as people-pleasers, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart.” —Ephesians 6:5-6. When a slave owner strikes a male or female slave with a rod and the slave dies immediately, the owner shall be punished. But if the slave survives a day or two, there is no punishment; for the slave is the owner's property. (Exod. 21:20-21) Tell slaves to be submissive to their masters and to give satisfaction in every respect; they are not to talk back, not to pilfer, but to show complete and perfect fidelity, so that in everything they may be an ornament to the doctrine of God our Savior. (Titus 2:9-10) Slaves, accept the authority of your masters with all deference, not only those who are kind and gentle but also those who are harsh. For it is a credit to you if, being aware of God, you endure pain while suffering unjustly. If you endure when you are beaten for doing wrong, what credit is that? But if you endure when you do right and suffer for it, you have God's approval. (1Pet. 2:18-29) Yep it says if you buy a Hebrew slave you have to let him/her go after a given number of years but that is just Hebrews, what about the rest?
Good question stainless. Is it a sin to cuss? Well, what do you define as cussing? The f word of course, but really, what is cursing? Is damn a curse word? Depends on how you use it IMO. Is hell a bad word? Of course not, you might say, but it all depends on how you use it. If you're talking about the place, then it's not cursing. But if you say "For the heck of it" (but not heck ), then what is that? I can see your point where cursing can relieve anger, but there are also other ways to release anger. IMO, it might sound corny, but what would Jesus say or do? Aren't Christians supposed to try their best to be as much like God as possible? John 13:14-16- 14 If I then, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also ought to wash one another’s feet. 15 For I have given you an example, that you should do as I have done to you. 16 Most assuredly, I say to you, a servant is not greater than his master; nor is he who is sent greater than he who sent him. And there's also Phillipians 3:17-17 Brethren, join in following my example, and note those who so walk, as you have us for a pattern. I know, we may slip, now and again, (as no human is going to live up to the full standard of being like God), but if you try to do your best, then that's what God wants IMO. Also, using those verse above here too, we need to be example to non-believers. You can only preach to someone so many times, but what's going to help the most (more than likely) is the example you help set IMO. Just my thoughts on this for now. Phoenix
okay, good points... But is it a sin to think "damn", when you say the word dang? Lets get to it, you can say crap, heck, dang, freakin all you want...but we do know what you are thinking stainless
The art of cursing is to do it with colourful vocabulary that is derisive, yet publicly acceptable. Notice that I humiliated our former cantankerous Kiwi wannabee without ever name calling him in the generally common way of performing it. Of course, not having functioned at even a marginally intelligent existence in all his life, the best he could come up with was to refer to me a as T***, which I found rather amusing as it surely is indicative of his lack of knowledge of the derisive insult.
Quite perceptive. And that is mostly how I would sum it up myself. It is not the 'cuss' words that are a sin, it is the intent behind them that can be. The words themselves are really a product of society. They vary from language to language and historical period to historical period. The intent behind them is what is fairly universal.
Good point, and I don't know really. You see, when I say dang, I'm honestly saying and meaning dang. When I say man, I mean man, lol. I don't really mean them as "substitutions", I actually mean them how I say them. That's just because that's the way I talk, and use them. If you still feel uncomfortable using them, then you don't have too. You can also control the way you feel, and the way you intend things. It's real tough sometimes, but you can do it. But it's really a judgement call on your part. Ask yourself, is it worth it? That's all I got to say for now, lol. Take care. Phoenix
people are being robbed, physically abused, raped and murdered. I do not think cursing is a high priorty sin in the book of life.
Saw on the news that the Marriott hotel got partially blown up in Pakistan by islamic terrorist. Not that this is anything new but seriously it was nice to banter about cursing but it really is a joke to think of it as a sin in the world we live in. Why, I said a one worded cursed to myself when i saw the story for the horror of those who now have no mother or father because they worked in a place or stayed in a place of infidels. That was not a sin, the bombing a sin and those who will find excuses for it is as well.
Correct. What you actually think is relevant. It's why Jesus said "if you lust after a woman in your heart, you've already committed adultery."
Not if you channel that lust towards the wife. Sometimes it is better then wearing a wig. I mean the wife that is.
The word of god can be found in the heart of men more likely then it can be found in a book written by a man. I respect KLJ but there is a world of difference of looking at a nice piece of .....and wondering compared to acting upon it. With that said, we do need books on how to live life for it does bring structure to a world of caos and people like KLJ do bring comfort to those in times of need and hope to those who need it as well as help them plan a blue print on how to live life.
great question anthony, and we actually just finished this topic in Bible study. We came to the conclusion, that it isnt the actual word that is a sin. Its the after effect and the driving factor behind it. Is cussing glorifying to God? everything we do should be glorifying to God. Does cussing leave a good lasting impression? If you see a guy that is cussing about something at one moment, and then turns to you and says, "you should devote your life to Christ" will you be under the impression that he is happy with his life? And happy with Gods plans for him? Kinda falls in line (somewhat) with drinking... I am ok with casual drinking, although I don't participate in it, I see no problem with it. As long as you can still recognize Jesus as your saviour and be glorifying to him, then I am fine with it. Only under certain circumstances am I against it. such as: Is drinking a stumbling block for someone in the room? If you have a small drink, in a social atmosphere, are you putting someone in the room in an uncomfortable situation?
couldnt have said it better myself. watch out, I am agreeing with you so you might want to re-evaluate. But to be honest, I couldnt help but to have a bit of what might be described as 'lust' for the ladies...I figure this is completely normal and nothing to be ashamed of. It shows you are human and I have never aspired to be anything else. I am married and can honestly say I have never cheated on my wife nor have I ever acted inappropriately on any attractions I might have. But a fella can imagine. You cant take that away from me!! IMO, I think this need to deny our base sexual urges causes perversions in some. You end up with people who are ashamed and have sexual issues, go to hookers or look for anonymous sex, cheat on wives, lie, then put on a facade of righteousness. Inside they are ashamed because they dont have an outlet even in their own mind. I am just a big fan of the female form, I dont think of it as objectifying it as much as a true appreciation of its beauty...but I am lucky to have a lovely wife as well who keeps things exciting.
Actually, LUST for the ladies (or the fellas) is a problem. All lust does is value people solely for their bodies, rather than for the image of God that they bear. Simply having sexual desire for someone, and saying that's OK apart from any other consideration, leaves us at the level of the animal kingdom, and we're better than that. There's a reason that humans are the only creatures capable of abstaining from sex during the "in heat" season.
