It Has Begun

I think you will all regret this, or at least you should. You can't human rights violations your way out of a problem.

 

You can label however you like. The punishment is still not nearly as egregious as the crime.... I don't watch these dark videos as a rule. However I did watch Saddam Hussein's hanging. Not because I have a morbid curiosity about such things as I certainly do not. This man was one of the most cold hearted mass murderers since Hitler and took pleasure in seeing his victims die..... The man squealed like a terrified child when he was led to the gallows.... When human beings become so dark inside that they fail to see the humanity in others, I most certainly believe that their punishment should torture their soul as they have tortured others.

 

Just as Jesus said, an eye for an eye, it's only fair.

In all seriousness, most of these men haven't been convicted of any crime, much less heinous ones. They're not serving a "sentence" as they were never tried in court. There is no parole, no date to leave, they will die in there one way or another without ever being tried for crimes (if they even committed any).

I think you need to look in the mirror when you talk about seeing humanity in others, because these are real people being condemned without trial or evidence to life sentences in labor camps. Can't you see how wrong that is?

 

What men are you talking about? Men who are in the U.S. illegally?

 

Hmmm. He’s a woman beater too according to court documents posted by his loving wife…… Why am I not surprised? Yes we live in an age that killers, human traffickers and murderers are adored….. If you believe in law and order… You are deplorable.

 

I'm not just talking why him, I'm talking about every single person sent to their death without due process.

 

Oh my goodness! A member of MS-13 who was in the U.S. illegally has been deported back to his country of origin. Oh, the horror!

Police records destroy media narrative about ‘wrongly deported’ Maryland migrant

Prince George's County's Gang Unit conducted an interview with Abrego Garcia and contacted a 'past proven and reliable source' who identified him as an active member of MS-13

April 16, 2025

The Department of Homeland Security has released court records it says definitively prove Salvadoran migrant Kilmar Abrego Garcia is a member of the infamous MS-13 gang. This comes as Democrats clamor for the return of Abrego Garcia, who they say was "wrongly deported" to a maximum-security prison in his home country as part of the Trump administration's efforts to crack down on illegal migrant crime.

According to a Prince George's County, Maryland, Police Department interview sheet shared with Fox News by DHS, local police discovered Abrego Garcia during a murder investigation. Police found him loitering in a Home Depot parking lot with other known MS-13 gang members in possession of illicit drugs in 2019.

Prince George's County Gang Unit MS-13 Intelligence Squad conducted an interview with Abrego Garcia and contacted a "past proven and reliable source" who identified him as an active member of MS-13 with the "Westerns" clique, with the rank of "Chequeo" and the moniker of "Chele."

Additionally, publicly available court records filed against Abrego Garcia cast further doubt on the Democrats' narrative about his innocence.

Abrego Garcia, 29, was deported to a controversial mega prison, the Terrorist Confinement Center (CECOT) in El Salvador, in March along with several hundred other alleged gang members living in the U.S. Though he was deported for being an alleged MS-13 gang member, his attorneys maintain he was living in the U.S. legally and does not have any gang ties.

Last week, the Supreme Court upheld a lower court's decision ordering the Trump administration to arrange Abrego Garcia’s return. The court required the "government to 'facilitate' Abrego Garcia's release from custody in El Salvador and to ensure that his case is handled as it would have been had he not been improperly sent to El Salvador."

The Trump administration agreed to clear any administrative obstacles keeping Abrego Garcia from returning to the U.S., but Attorney General Pam Bondi has said that returning him is "up to El Salvador. If they want to return him. That's not up to us."

This has caused outrage among Democrats, many of whom have begun referring to him as a "Maryland man" who was wrongly deported. Some have even suggested he was kidnapped by the Trump administration.

"Kilmar Abrego Garcia was wrongly deported to El Salvador as part of the Trump Administration’s government-funded kidnapping rampage," Rep. Maxwell Frost, D-Fla., posted on X. "He is rotting away in a foreign prison where his life is in danger. We need to go there now to make sure he’s okay."

On Wednesday, Sen. Chris Van Hollen, D-Md., flew to El Salvador to visit Abrego Garcia in prison and work to secure his release. His trip has been criticized by many, including the mother of Rachel Morrin, a 39-year-old Maryland mother who was raped and murdered by a Salvadoran illegal immigrant in 2023.

"To have a senator from Maryland who didn't even acknowledge, or barely acknowledge, my daughter and the brutal death that she endured, leaving her five children without a mother and now a grandbaby without a grandmother so that he can use my taxpayer money to fly to El Salvador to bring back someone that's not even an American citizen. Why does that person have more rights than I do, or my daughter, or my grandchildren? I don't understand this," she said.

Through it all, the Trump administration continues to maintain it was right to deport Abrego Garcia to CECOT.

On Wednesday, the Department of Homeland Security doubled down, saying Abrego Garcia has a "history of violence and was not the upstanding ‘Maryland Man’ the media has portrayed him as."

DHS shared court filings in which Abrego Garcia’s wife, Jennifer Vasquez, sought a domestic violence restraining order against him, claiming he "punched, scratched, and ripped off her shirt."

And a 2019 DHS interview document shared with Fox News shows Abrego Garcia admitted to being in the U.S. illegally and claimed to have "walked across the desert for many days entering illegally into the United States near McAllen, Texas on or about March 25, 2012."

As a result, Abrego Garcia was marked as eligible for deportation in 2019.

A federal immigration court in Baltimore further determined Abrego Garcia was not eligible for release because he "failed to meet his burden of demonstrating that his release from custody would not pose a danger to others, as the evidence shows that he is a verified member of MS-13."

The court held that "the fact that a ‘past, proven, and reliable source of infonnation [sic]’ verified the Respondent's gang membership, rank, and gang name is sufficient to support that the Respondent is a gang member" and that Abrego had "failed to present evidence to rebut that assertion."

"Kilmar Abrego Garcia is not a ‘Maryland Man’—he is an MS-13 gang member involved in human trafficking who entered the United States illegally," DHS posted on X. "His deportation to El Salvador was always going to be the end result."

DHS bashed Van Hollen for advocating Abrego Garcia’s release, saying the senator "has done more to bring a MS-13 gang member, human trafficker and illegal alien back to Maryland than he has to help keep his American constituents safe or advocate for the victims of these vicious gangs like MS-13."

"While Sen. Van Hollen and the mainstream media peddle a sob story about a brutal MS-13 gang member, Secretary Noem stands with the victims of illegal alien crime," said DHS. "We hear far too much about the gang members and criminals' sob stories and not enough about their victims."

DHS Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin posted some more details about his arrest, saying, in addition to being apprehended with other MS-13 members, he was found with "rolls of cash and drugs" and "wearing what is effectively MS-13’s uniform."

Speaking with Fox News on Monday, McLaughlin said Abrego Garcia is "exactly where he belongs, home in El Salvador."

"The media would love for you to believe that this is some media darling, that he is just some Maryland father, but Osama bin Laden was also a father, and yet he wasn’t a good guy, and they are actually both terrorists," she added. "He should be in this El Salvador prison, prison for terrorists, and I hope he will remain there."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/po...ative-about-wrongly-deported-maryland-migrant

 

1. That's not new at all, but is being repackaged as new to you for propaganda reasons. Good lord, "destroys"

Might as well have said "from the top ropes!" It's pageantry.

2. "wearing what is effectively MS-13’s uniform." They're referring to Chicago Bulls branded clothing. Very convenient they left that out.

3. Even if everything about him is true, prove it and get him removed via an immigration court. Without due process, you're by definition doing concentration camps. The immigration courts are lopsided against immigrants as is, and you can't even be bothered to take that step? Shame.

 

The question I believe everyone here is asking is WHY are you defending this MS-13 maggot who is in our country illegally? Why are you sympathizing with “Chele”? He is not an American citizen. He deserved to be deported to his country of origin. If Chele wants to come to the U.S. and start a new, honest, gang-free life he’s more than welcome to go through the proper procedures. But, until then he is under the purview of his home country.

 

He has to be tried for these things, even if they are true. Especially if they're true even.

You can't prove he's MS-13, he hasn't been tried in a court of law. And I'm not just talking about him, I'm talking about all those people deported to a life sentence in a labor camp without due process.

Though frankly I'm opposed to the idea of sending them directly to these facilities even if they are guilty. If that's what El Salvador chooses to do to it's own citizens, I can't stop them, but the fact we're sending others from different countries and paying to prop up the camps is detestable.

 

I'm done with the niceties. I find you to be a POS, and in your words, detestable. I'm tired of hearing you equate the deportation and incarceration of these criminals to El Salvador as comparable to a concentration camp. I had family that was exterminated in the holocaust for no other reason than they were Jewish, and you uttering any comparison is not only offensive, but it shows your complete lack of understanding about anything going on in this administration, world history, and blatantly reveals your brainless following as the sheeple you line up behind. You made this personal with your concentration camp BS, so eF you. YOU are the one who is shameful.

Those pieces of scum are MS13 terrorists. They are in this country illegally. They are therefore breaking our immigration laws. That is enough right there to get them TFO of our country. They are not citizens of the United States.

And as far as Mahmoud Khalil, he does not get to preach antisemitic rhetoric under the guise of free speech. He is a guest in this country. Period, the end. You aren't a citizen, and you don't like the way things are being done in this country, then GTFO. Don't try to spread your hate here. You don't have those rights.

 

Then use due process to deport them

 

I see what is happening here. This is a narrative…. The Biden regime spends four years allowing waves of criminals to cross the border so now the attempt is to tie the current administrations hands trying to force them to try these people one by one. An impossible task. Law fare in reverse.

 

Then you don't need to start illegally stripping people of human rights, you need to hire and set up infrastructure for making the immigration court process better. If Republicans truly wanted to fix it, they'd fund and bolster that system.

 

You ever read the nursery rhyme about the little Dutch boy with his finger in the dam?

 

The ILLEGAL invasion requires no trial for someone who doesn't belong here in the first place.

And doesn't change the fact that you are a POS.

 

It actually does though. That's the process by which we determine they don't belong.

 

Not when you are a terrorist..... And the hits just keep on coming. Headline from this mornings news feed.

Illegal Aliens Allegedly Power Drill Hole in Woman’s Hand Before Shooting Her

 

How can you know who's a terrorist without trying them for their crimes?

In the case you posted, it should be a slam dunk open shut case. So try it

 

Smarten up, GW. No . . . it is not.

If someone has entered our country by means other than legally available to them, they are here illegally, and are not protected by the US Constitution.

It's quite simple, really . . . The US Constitution explicitly guarantees rights to Americans:

"We the People of the United States, in order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
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There is no guarantee whatsoever of Constitutional protections to those who are not American citizens . . .

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