Has everyone gone nuts in America?

America is threatening to

 

Title of Thread . . .

"Has everyone gone nuts in America?"




No . . .

Being a little nuts is

entirely different from going

bat-shit Trump deranged.
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I will comment on this aspect of your Post:

The best estimates for the VN war period of 1954-1975, inclusive of DEMOCIDE, and inclusive of SVN, NVN, U.S., South Korea and Cambodia, is:

2.5 million -3.5 million. Note that this does not include Soviet or Red Chinese deaths-military or civilian, because it is State information "protected", however, various sources from religious groups, survivors, family members, etc. estimates 300,000- 425,000. inclusive of WIA that didn't survive, and chemical exposure as cause of death after 1975.
Worldwide, an estimated 1 million birth defects are due to Agent Orange, and an estimated 3 million illnesses, that will eventually result in death.

As of 2023, there have been 50,000 deaths due to unexploded ordinances

I am surprised you are gleeful about this.

No. Andropov.

Anyway, anybody explain:

War...what is it good for.....

I would also appreciate not concluding I am a dirty filthy protesting hippie or commie.

To this day, I have never met any member of any Armed Services of any Country/Nation espouse glee at war deaths...well.... not from anyone that experienced same.

Defense Preparation is unfortunately necessary. Human nature makes it so. Instigation as the first response is not, regardless of the supposed reasons.

 

Listen, the more dead Russians the better. Do not forget, the terrible war crimes they commited. Bucha, one of thousands of examples. If they were decent human beings they would not sign up for $$$ to go into a Democratic nation to kill/ maim decent people. Their aviators gleefully lobe glide bombs on schools/ apartment complexes/ hospitals....
They shoot POWS in cold blood. Nevermind their own FSB/ commanders shoot those who refuse to obey suicidal orders. They (Russia) will never be Americas friend, their mindset is to destroy/ kill anything/ one that stands in the way. Presently, their agents are plotting to subvert democratic elections all over (Romania/ Slovakia/ Hungary/ Georgia/ Moldova) to name a few. Also aiding terrorists/ despots in Syria/ Iran/ Hezbollah/ Hamas. Not to forget sabotage ie Baltic cable for one. They attacked Ukraine same way Japan did in 41. Except Japanese were successfull. Russians completely failed by their 54 Mile column of armor running out of gas! Man, Russia certainly doesn't need "lebenraum" their land mass stretches from Kamchatka/ FE Siberia to Königsberg.

 

The economics of the thread is like this......
Ukraine was attacked by a bellicose Russia. It was autocracy vs democracy. But, hang on, now North Korea and Iran are also aiding the bad guys.
So, its like a leak in your foundation, repair it right away for $2500 or wait until it all has to be dug up and costs 20K
There is 100 % certainty that there will be a War with Russia. Do you want to spend 1T and defeat them, make their economy collapse/ regime falls. Or, let them take Ukraine, rearm for next War when they invade Baltics/ Poland which will cost US Trillions + combat losses.

 

Also, when Americans went to War vs British in 1776 and 1812, Peace was made, now US and UK are best friends.
After the Great War 1914-18, US President Woodrow Wilson urged Allied Powers to be "fair" with Germany/ Austro-Hungarian Empire/ Ottoman Empire. However Lloyd George (UK) and Clemanceau (France) wanted revenge and blood. See where that went to.
Then WW2/ this time Churchill agreed with Truman to not make same mistake with Germany/ Japan. See how that worked out German even got Americans on Moon in 69. Meanwhile on other side of Iron Curtain things ended up going downhill. Stalin's USSR now ended at the Elbe R.
The Baltics/ Poland/ Czechoslovakia/ Hungary/ Romania/ Bulgaria/ Albania/ Yugoslavia/ E. Germany all became Soviet hell holes. Fast forward too 2025. The new Kremlin Tzar and his henchmen want that ALL back + ALASKA.

 

Please...try to refrain from a tendency...intended or not...toward condescending lecture.

I am somewhat informed concerning the aspects of your anti-Soviet commentary.

Many Nations/Countries can be described as committing the atrocities you discuss.

Our perspectives, while appearing at odds via the written word, are similar as to identifying Genocide and Democide.

WWII (and I am certain you already know) resulted in 40 million+ deaths worldwide, and a lasting economic impact of 19.6 Trillion Dollars+ worldwide, and continues an economic impact to this day.

Adding WWI, Korean War, Middle East, etc., simply increases the death and economic cost numbers dramatically. You know this. also.

History argues against your thoughts. I suspect you know this, but it is... I admit....difficult to consider alternative solutions.

Had the World not strangled Japan with the "weapons" of worldwide oil embargoes, (at a time when Japan was at war with China), could the U.S./Japanese aspect of WWII been avoided? It does not excuse the bombing of Pearl Harbor, a foolish instigation.

The reality of that stupidity is the World was introduced to Atomic/Nuclear Weapons as deterrents. You now this, of course; the thrust is...here we are, in 2025....still being stupid.

I see no reason for glee.

 

I do not...in any method of contemplation.... concur with your assumptions of certainty or reasons for same.

 

I think that it is our tendency as Americans to have faith in other nations "good intentions" until it is too late. I don't know if that is a good quality or an albatross that paints us as a target for the bad actors of the world.

 

There is certainly support for both conclusions, when examining the History of the U.S.

It does support one factual conclusion: either conclusion depends on one person, and that is who the POTUS is or was.

 

There are three things necessary for successful negotiation when it comes to avoiding war . . .

1. Clear meaning
2. Readiness for conflict
3. Resolve

All else is just fluff and wasted breath.

 

President Trump will maybe getting his "Peace Deal" via flooding world markets with US oil/ gas by going full bore on fracking/ drilling/ pipelines.
This will help Europe get off Russian energy imports, drive price per barrel to below $40 a barrel. The Russian War machine needs oil prices around $69US a barrel to break even. Presently 41% of Russian GNP is spent on this SMO, all else is falling apart. So let the sanctions do their job. Reagan proved it worked in 1989, the Wall came down.

 

See? The picture grows clearer once you set all the Trump insanity stuff aside.

 

I was happy Trump won both times. He was a breath of fresh air to Karmala. I just took offense to the way JD Vance and Mr. Trump handled President Zelenskyy, who is a great statesman. JD Vance's cousin was interviewed today, a US marine, he served in Ukraine past three years. He said, I wish every American could see what I saw at front lines. He then said, I hope no Americans ever have to experience that.
If you guys make Canada your 51st State, thank God I then do not have to pay $1.45 Canadian to get !US$ It will save me big time when paying for my coin auction invoices And you guys have no imports taxes on rare gold coins.....

 

You have all the sexy world gold, don't you?

 

Well 1400+ coins and this

 

Way cool!! Yep, I know ya.

 

Talking MOPARS....
A friend of mine has a frame off restored 69 Charger named the "General Lee" Exact replica of the Dukes of Hazzard one, but pristine condition.

 

I just have a humble old Dart Swinger. Spent all my cash raising kids so I had to "settle".

 

Nice! Not many of those around.
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One of my clients owns a 70 GTX 440/sixpak!