This election

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Profiler, Aug 8, 2024.

  1. Profiler
    Inspired

    Profiler Well-Known Member

    This election is now not about Democrat vs Republican, it’s about what direction this country is headed.
    Kamala has now been confirmed as the democratic presidential candidate and has since nominated Waltz as her VP. If you look at these individuals positions, this means that this election will be between socialism vs a 250+ years representative republic. Ben said it’s a republic if you can keep it.
    Just a few years ago Bernie Sanders was rejected because he was a far left socialist yet now these individuals are main stream.
     
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  2. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    I don't think that is accurate, but of course I could be interpreting the DNC Rules incorrectly.
     
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  3. toughcoins

    toughcoins Rarely is the liberal viewpoint tainted by realism

    Ushered in, is more like it.

    DNC rules? The DNC don't need no stinking rules . . .
     
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  4. CoinOKC
    Fiendish

    CoinOKC T R U M P

    Correct. In fact, the way she was anointed is a threat to democracy.

    Where is briben during all this? He was shoved out in a very un-Democratic way and watched a few people in a smoke-filled back room select their nominee. Very, very un-Democratic. I'd like to see him on TV blabbering about THEM being a threat to democracy. Where is that "soul of the nation" crap he used to spew? The democrats have sucked the soul right out of this nation with such a slap in the face to democracy.
     
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  5. toughcoins

    toughcoins Rarely is the liberal viewpoint tainted by realism

    TMBTC told him to play nice, or be evicted before the lease runs out.
     
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  6. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

    Just heard this

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    You ready to see a lean red Texas instead of a safe red Texas? I expect Trump to win the state, but it's about to be much more purple than you'd expect.
     
  7. CoinOKC
    Fiendish

    CoinOKC T R U M P

    Unfortunately, RFK should have been given a chance in the primaries against briben. But, he was denied that opportunity by the threat-to-democracy DNC. I’m glad to see he’s being given some recognition by Texas. Let’s see if any blue states will allow it. Come on California! Come on New York! Come on Illinois! Deep red state Texas is allowing him on the ballot because, well, it’s only fair. Let’s see if the libs allow him on the ballot in other states. If not, they are a threat to democracy!
     
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  8. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

    He already is in most states, Texas was one of the final holdouts.

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    He peels voters from Trump by the way
     
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  9. CoinOKC
    Fiendish

    CoinOKC T R U M P

    I don’t give a damn whether he peels votes from Trump or not. That isn’t the point. He should have been allowed to primary against Biden, but the un-Democratic DNC (which is a threat to democracy) wouldn’t allow it. How un-American!
     
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  10. CoinOKC
    Fiendish

    CoinOKC T R U M P

    I can’t believe Kennedy is having to run under the American Independent Party in California. His family is a rock of the Democratic Party and he should have been allowed to primary against Biden. But, we all know how un-Democratic the democrats can be.
     
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  11. Swim4Life

    Swim4Life Well-Known Member

    Absolutely.
    However, he peels an equal amount of votes from OnYourKneesHarris.

    He'll take away centrist leaning Repubs from Trump. And he'll take away centrist leaning Dems from OnYourKnees. He's actually a good moderate candidate.
     
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  12. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

    He does not take an equal amount from Harris, by any means. Nobody on the left likes him, the only people that fawn over him are those on the right.

    Poll after poll shows when you question voters who they support generally, and then follow with a forced choice of Harris/Trump, Trump does much better in the Harris/Trump only hypothetical.

    Before you guys even say it, this kind of metric isn't the same as polls generally. If they oversample Dem voters, the results may not be accurate of the state (the usual gripe with polls). If they oversample Dems and RFK Jr. truly peels more from them, you would expect Harris' performance to improve in the forced head-to-head.

    It's been clear for a while nobody likes RFK Jr. except disillusioned Trump people. Heck, Kyle Rittenhouse and Joe Rogan even gave their words of support to him recently.
     
  13. What U ignore

    What U ignore Thread KILLER

    That was once said about Herass; yet NOW, SHE IS THE DARLING OF THE LEFT NEDIA, THE BULLIONAIRES RUNING THE LEFT, AND DEMOCRAT VOTERS!
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    If you think about it, some things that don't make sense actually do.
     
  14. CoinOKC
    Fiendish

    CoinOKC T R U M P

    Let's hold off regarding Kennedy's name being on ballots across the U.S. Simply put, he should have been allowed to primary against joe briben and even Kamaltoe for that matter. But, as we all know, he wasn't allowed the opportunity because the political elite in the Democrat Party wanted briben (and now Kamaltoe) and decided against the American people choosing their nominee.

    Ruling that bounced Kennedy from New York ballot could challenge him in other states

    August 14, 2024

    ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s independent presidential campaign suffered a blow this week when a judge in New York invalidated his petition to put his name on the state ballot, a ruling that could potentially create problems for the candidate as he faces challenges elsewhere.

    Justice Christina Ryba said Monday that the place in New York City's suburbs that Kennedy listed as a residence on nominating petitions was a "sham" address he used to maintain his voter registration and to further his political aspirations. The judge ruled in favor of the challengers, who argued Kennedy's actual residence was the home in Los Angeles he shares with his wife, the "Curb Your Enthusiasm" actor Cheryl Hines.

    Kennedy planned a quick appeal and predicted he would prevail.

    New York is among more than a half-dozen states where challenges have been made to Kennedy's petitions from Democrats and their allies. Some of the challenges allege he falsely listed the same New York address that was the subject of litigation in that state, or that there were problems with petition signatures.

    In Pennsylvania, challengers contend that papers filed by Kennedy list an incorrect address in New York and that he and his running mate demonstrated "at best, a fundamental disregard" of state law and the process by which signatures are gathered. An attorney for Kennedy said the challenge contained specious allegations. A court will conduct an evidentiary hearing next Tuesday in Harrisburg.

    Kennedy's campaign says it has collected enough signatures for ballot access in all 50 states and that it is officially on the ballot in 17 states.


    His candidacy has at various times drawn concerns from both Democrats and Republicans who think he could siphon votes from their candidates.

    National Democrats in particular have been active in trying to undercut his candidacy, while former President Donald Trump, the Republican nominee, has alternated between criticizing Kennedy as liberal and courting his endorsement or the backing of some of his supporters.

     
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  15. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    NY will not win the Appeal by Kennedy.
    He has paid taxes every year in NY, he has filed tax returns every year in NY, his Drivers license is issued by NY, and he has always registered to vote in NY and no other State.

    This is a delay tactic by a Justice that is kicking the can away, knowing it would be appealed, and the question is if the Appeal gets delayed or also gets the can kicking in time for a SCOTUS review.

    I wish the candidate well on that, but.....NY.

    Truth in editing: changed "fled" to "filed"... don't want to accuse the poor fellow of being a criminal.

    I think it was subliminal on my part, given the Past POTUS TRUMP continuous never ending tax zonking.
     
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  16. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

    Don't be dense, nobody primaries a sitting president. Can you remind us all of how the primaries against Trump went in 2020?
     
  17. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    What are you mumbling about? Your Posts has no relation in the slightest connection to the subject matter and Posts to date.

    However, o appease your continuous non-stop pouting, I will give you a dripping nose level of attention:

    Every sitting POTUS inclusive of Washington is participating in his next Primary process, from the day he takes an Oath Of Office.
    Silly Wabbit.....
     
  18. CoinOKC
    Fiendish

    CoinOKC T R U M P

    Nah:

    From January 21 to June 3, 1980, voters of the Democratic Party chose its nominee for president in the 1980 United States presidential election. Incumbent President Jimmy Carter was again selected as the nominee through a series of primary elections and caucuses, culminating in the 1980 Democratic National Convention, held from August 11 to 14, 1980, in New York City.

    Carter faced a major primary challenger in Senator Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts, who won 12 contests and received more than seven million votes nationwide, enough for him to refuse to concede the nomination until the second day of the convention. This remains the last primary election in which an incumbent president's party nomination was still contested going into the convention.

    Jimmy Carter would be the last incumbent president to lose a primary in any contest, until Joe Biden lost to Jason Palmer in the 2024 American Samoa Democratic presidential caucuses.[3] For the Democrats in 1980 a then-record of 37 primary races were held.[4]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries
     
  19. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

    What's your point? The last serious primary challenge to a sitting president was nearly half a century ago?

    Again, how did the primary and caucuses go for Trump in 2020?
     
  20. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    "Nobody primaries a sitting president".

    Fake news..........
     
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