Gender Fluidity - The Aftermath

Discussion in 'Chatter' started by Mopar Dude, Jul 25, 2023.

  1. Mopar Dude

    Mopar Dude Well-Known Member

    Ahhh… Always the unintended consequences….. I work with many dozens of manufacturers and support organizations in my business. And as is typical in business, when a firm makes what they consider to be an important organizational decision, they send the perfunctory email to all of the organizations contacts. Over the course of the past few years I have received my fair share of messages from vendors touting their move to a more “sensitive” corporate image. Shortly thereafter, all of the corporate emails have the addition of he, she, they and all that tomfoolery…. What I have watched take place is the service aspect of their respective businesses have declined in direct response to the change in their business perspective… Now, I have ceased doing business with two of them due to their inability to service. Today I received an email that another was closing shop and I attribute this directly to their foolish change in corporate focus. Business exists to do business. And we as Americans don’t tolerate anything short of excellence when we spend our money. The business arena is not a melting pot to entertain societal fads. And God help us if this same misguided focus is taking place in our armed forces. We are losing sight of the big picture here folks.
     
  2. CoinOKC
    Fiendish

    CoinOKC T R U M P

    … and I place this short-sighted foolishness squarely at the feet of liberals. There is simply no question about it.

    It seems, however, that some people are beginning to pay attention and say “enough is enough”. I hope the liberals haven’t led this country too far down the primrose path that it can’t find its way back, though.
     
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  3. toughcoins

    toughcoins Rarely is the liberal viewpoint tainted by realism

    I respect the right of others to self-determination, just as they should respect mine.

    What I don’t respect is the insistence of some that everyone else honor their images of themselves. We each have our own perceptions, and if they don’t like how we feel about them that’s well . . . Just too damn bad. They needed less pampering growing up, and to grow thicker skins.
     
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  4. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

    But you're not respecting theirs if you don't honor them. It costs you nothing to do so.

    I assume you identify as male. How would you react if you met someone and they insisted on calling you a woman? Would you be likely to keep associating with that person?
     
  5. Mopar Dude

    Mopar Dude Well-Known Member

    Thing is, all these “feel good” actions are short sighted…..If you cover your face with tattoos and piercings, your employment opportunities are going to be limited to record stores and cannabis shops. That’s fine employment when you are twenty. Doesn’t work so well when you are forty with kids and a mortgage though…. Short term “feel good” thinking is crippling our young folks.
     
  6. toughcoins

    toughcoins Rarely is the liberal viewpoint tainted by realism


    Grow up, GW.

    If I was born a woman, identified as a man, and they called me a woman, that’s something I need to accept.
     
  7. toughcoins

    toughcoins Rarely is the liberal viewpoint tainted by realism

    By the way, GW, it’s not as if I walk up and call a trans by their born sex in order to offend them. More often than not, it’s about them trying to force their ideals upon me.
     
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  8. toughcoins

    toughcoins Rarely is the liberal viewpoint tainted by realism

    Bbbut, I want what I want now.
     
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  9. charley

    charley Well-Known Member


    You surely recognize how silly your post is, no? Boys have a Penis. Girls have a Vagina. Please repeat your Biology Class.
     
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  10. justafarmer

    justafarmer Well-Known Member

    Herein lies the crux of the problem. I respect your right to identify as a liberal but I do not have to honor the choice you made, the actions you take, the agenda you promote and etc in your exercising of this right.
     
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  11. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

    Why? Why do you insist everyone honor your worldview? Just make a bare minimum effort to be respectful of others here, it's not difficult.

    I am certain you don't try to offend them purposefully, but I also don't think anyone has "forced" anything on you. Gently correcting you and informing you they identify different is fine. Apologize, make the change moving forward, move on. No big deal. What's it matter to you how they identify?

    To be clear, it's not okay for them to yell or be confrontational and accusatory towards you over a mistake, but I don't think that's ever happened to you. It's a caricature frequently used to discredit trans people.
     
  12. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    I know what causes my gender fluidity to activate, and it is the reason I am still married to the cause of my satisfaction in that particular endeavor.
     
  13. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    Why do you insist everybody honor yours? Why don't you make a bare minimum effort to accept that there are people that view your personal world view as silly and inexperienced, and just as discourteously presented by you as anything opined by you in rebuttal.

    I neither like or dislike you. I simply do not care to agree with you and prefer to make my personal opinion of your position as clear as I can, and if it offends you or causes you to react in any negative manner in response, inclusive of your condescending habit toward those with a hell of a lot more experience in life, no matter how stupid and clownish and immature and non-experienced your manner presents, that is my Right.

    I almost forgot: Clown.
     
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  14. justafarmer

    justafarmer Well-Known Member

    Honestly I view most who identify as gender fluid to be merely opportunist. People who survey their current situation/circumstance then identify according to what will provide them with the most benefit.
     
  15. toughcoins

    toughcoins Rarely is the liberal viewpoint tainted by realism

    It’s not my worldview, it’s Mother Nature’s. Men are male and women are female . . . Period!


    Okay, other’s views were not forced directly upon me, but to be the only older white male standing in my area when I heard someone reference some breeders in the crowd sure made me feel targeted. Why can’t they just shut their mouths around me like I do when I’m around them?
     
  16. Mopar Dude

    Mopar Dude Well-Known Member

    That has always been the point. Straight white conservatives go to jail when they flaunt their sexuality so we have enough horse sense to keep it in the privacy of our bedrooms. There isn’t a person alive that has been discriminated against for leaving their sexual exploits in the bedroom….. But that’s not good enough for the all about me generation.
     
  17. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

    See, but this is a fundamental misunderstanding. Gender identity has nothing to do with sexuality. A trans person could be straight, gay, bisexual, or even asexual and you would have no idea.
     
  18. toughcoins

    toughcoins Rarely is the liberal viewpoint tainted by realism

    I think you, sir, are completely lost. It is uncertainty with one’s sexuality that sends one seeking a less conventional sexual identity.
     
  19. GeneWright

    GeneWright Well-Known Member

    What are you even talking about? It's not a sexual identity, it's a gender identity. You can't discern someone's sexual preferences by their gender identity, and that's just a fact.
     
  20. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    Good Lord.
     
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