Trump Indicted . . .

Discussion in 'Politics' started by toughcoins, Mar 30, 2023.

  1. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    There is nothing unusual about this arraignment that hasn't already happened countless times before with political figures from both sides of the aisle unless you believe that an ex-president has some sort of special privilege that the rest of the people in this country don't share. I personally don't believe ex-presidents have any special standing that allows them to break the law and get away with it. Trump deserves his day in court just like anyone else and he deserves to see the evidence against him. He deserves the right to defend himself from any and all charges just like anyone else. Anyone that believes differently is out of touch with reality and isn't anything more than a MAGA moron with nothing more than disdain for this country and the laws that govern us all. You know, like the people that showed up in Washington DC on January 6th and other sore losers.
     
  2. What U ignore

    What U ignore Thread KILLER

    JoeNation, posted: "There is nothing unusual about this arraignment that hasn't already happened countless times before with political figures from both sides of the aisle unless you believe that an ex-president has some sort of special privilege that the rest of the people in this country don't share. I personally don't believe ex-presidents have any special standing that allows them to break the law and get away with it. Trump deserves his day in court just like anyone else and he deserves to see the evidence against him. He deserves the right to defend himself from any and all charges just like anyone else. Anyone that believes differently is out of touch with reality and isn't anything more than a MAGA moron with nothing more than disdain for this country and the laws that govern us all. You know, like the people that showed up in Washington DC on January 6th and other sore losers."

    :rolleyes: While attempting to be involved, this stupid post by this member who refuses to answer any direct questions to defend his monkey business each time he posts PROVES WITHOUT A DOUBT THAT HE IS PROBABLY THE ONLY PERSON IN THE WORLD WHO IS OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY! THIS DEGREE OF IGNORANCE CONCERNING POLITICS MAKES ANYTHING :confused: HE POSTS SUSPECT!

    I have been listening to the fake media, conservative media, and foreign media CLAIMING THAT THIS CRIMINAL CHARGE (the democrat farce) IS UNPARALLELED IN HISTORY.

    This unparalleled moment in US history is a unique change to the status quo. The ignorant chant "No one is above the law" PROVING THEY ARE OUT OF TOUCH WITH REALITY and US HISTORY!
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  3. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    The charges:

    District Attorney Bragg Announces 34-Count Felony Indictment of Former President Donald J. Trump

    APRIL 4, 2023
    Read the Indictment and the Statement of Facts

    Manhattan District Attorney Alvin L. Bragg, Jr. today announced the indictment of DONALD J. TRUMP, 76, for falsifying New York business records in order to conceal damaging information and unlawful activity from American voters before and after the 2016 election. During the election, TRUMP and others employed a “catch and kill” scheme to identify, purchase, and bury negative information about him and boost his electoral prospects. TRUMP then went to great lengths to hide this conduct, causing dozens of false entries in business records to conceal criminal activity, including attempts to violate state and federal election laws.

    TRUMP is charged in a New York State Supreme Court indictment with 34 counts of Falsifying Business Records in the First Degree.[]

    “The People of the State of New York allege that Donald J. Trump repeatedly and fraudulently falsified New York business records to conceal crimes that hid damaging information from the voting public during the 2016 presidential election,” said District Attorney Bragg. “Manhattan is home to the country’s most significant business market. We cannot allow New York businesses to manipulate their records to cover up criminal conduct. As the Statement of Facts describes, the trail of money and lies exposes a pattern that, the People allege, violates one of New York’s basic and fundamental business laws. As this office has done time and time again, we today uphold our solemn responsibility to ensure that everyone stands equal before the law.”

    According to court documents and statements made on the record in court, from August 2015 to December 2017, TRUMP orchestrated his “catch and kill” scheme through a series of payments that he then concealed through months of false business entries.

    In one instance, American Media Inc. (“AMI”), paid $30,000 to a former Trump Tower doorman, who claimed to have a story about a child TRUMP had out of wedlock.

    In a second instance, AMI paid $150,000 to a woman who alleged she had a sexual relationship with TRUMP. When TRUMP explicitly directed a lawyer who then worked for the Trump Organization as TRUMP’s Special Counsel (“Special Counsel”) to reimburse AMI in cash, the Special Counsel indicated to TRUMP that the payment should be made via a shell company and not by cash. AMI ultimately declined to accept reimbursement after consulting their counsel. AMI, which later admitted its conduct was unlawful in an agreement with federal prosecutors, made false entries in its business records concerning the true purpose of the $150,000 payment.

    In a third instance – 12 days before the presidential general election – the Special Counsel wired $130,000 to an attorney for an adult film actress. The Special Counsel, who has since pleaded guilty and served time in prison for making the illegal campaign contribution, made the payment through a shell corporation funded through a bank in Manhattan.

    After winning the election, TRUMP reimbursed the Special Counsel through a series of monthly checks, first from the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust – created in New York to hold the Trump Organization’s assets during TRUMP’s presidency – and later from TRUMP’s bank account. In total, 11 checks were issued for a phony purpose. Nine of those checks were signed by TRUMP. Each check was processed by the Trump Organization and illegally disguised as a payment for legal services rendered pursuant to a non-existent retainer agreement. In total, 34 false entries were made in New York business records to conceal the initial covert $130,000 payment. Further, participants in the scheme took steps that mischaracterized, for tax purposes, the true nature of the reimbursements.

    Assistant D.A.s Catherine McCaw (Counsel to the Investigation Division), Katherine Ellis (Major Economic Crimes Bureau), Rebecca Mangold (Major Economic Crimes Bureau), Christopher Conroy (Senior Advisor to the Investigation Division), Susan Hoffinger (Chief of the Investigation Division), and Matthew Colangelo (Senior Counsel to the District Attorney) are handling the prosecution of this case with the assistance of Peter Pope (Executive Assistant D.A.), Steven Wu (Executive Assistant D.A. and Chief of the Appeals Division), and Alan Gadlin (Deputy Chief of the Appeals Division).

    Defendant Information:

    DONALD J. TRUMP
    Palm Beach, FL

    Charges:

    • Falsifying Business Records in the First Degree, a class E felony, 34 counts
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    [1] The charges contained in the indictment are merely allegations, and the defendant is presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty. All factual recitations are derived from documents filed in court and statements made on the record in court.
     
  4. What U ignore

    What U ignore Thread KILLER

    Thanks for the old news Joe. At least you have found something to keep yourself occupied so you can continue to avoid answering all the direct questions I've ask you directly. BTW, how does the Statue of Limitations in NY law apply to this case?
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  5. CoinOKC
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    yawn

    In other news, when will Alvin Bragg be charged with a felony for illegally releasing the grand jury indictments beforehand?

    Also, is it too late to go after Bill Clinton for rape? And the Hilderbeast for all the illegal -edited- she did with all the information she destroyed on her illegal server?

    It's time to impeach biden for all his illegal Chinese kickbacks. And he needs to be indicted the moment he leaves office, too. Or can a sitting president be indicted while he's in office? Many cans of worms have been opened today....
     
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  7. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    Go ahead, run a felon as head of your broken party. I would expect nothing less from you Trumpanzees.
     
  8. Profiler
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    Profiler Well-Known Member

    What felony has Trump been convicted of?
     
  9. Mopar Dude

    Mopar Dude Well-Known Member

    Just a catch-word to get under your skin….. It isn’t even the man particularly that troubles me as much as the damage to the institution and the world view of our nation that has already eroded under the watch of a charlatan…… But then, who cares about long term negative impact… As long as we can get Trump, right?
     
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  10. Profiler
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    Profiler Well-Known Member

    I know this but the question will shut his mouth for a bit. The left will willingly destroy this country, “the ends justify the means” ya know. From mad Max screaming impeach 45 before he was sworn in to Alvin Bragg running on the premise that he will prosecute Trump, the motivations of the left was made clear…….crystal clear. Fear is a powerful thing.
     
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  11. What U ignore

    What U ignore Thread KILLER

    BIDEN IS THE MEGA-CORRUPT LEADER OF A CRIME FAMILY on the "take" from the Russians and , RED CHINESE! Much of his entire administration, especially the democrat Justice Dept. is also corrupt. Only an ignorant, biased, low moral individual would tolerate this and defend it. :(

    There is not one specific crime mentioned to cook up other criminal conduct.

    If you have a state law with a bookeeping error to coverup an underlying crime what is the crime? Trump has not been charged with whatever it is and the crooked prosecutor will not say what it is! This is another democrat sponsored Black Minstrel Show for the benefit of the ignorant creeps in the democrat party.

    So Joe Not Part of My Nation, until you educate yourself about what you post, you will continue to post
    just like some ignorant fool who is too lazy to learn and engage with folks who outclass them with regard to politics.
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  12. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    When is the election?
     
  13. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    What about the long term effect of letting criminals cheat, lie, steal, and escape justice? Isn’t that the bigger risk?
     
  14. What U ignore

    What U ignore Thread KILLER

    Keep dancing to the organ grinder you ignorant clown. Obviously you DON'T KNOW THE RECORD OF THIS PROSECUTOR! The one soft on crime! Go look it up! Until you change your source of info you will continue your ignorant monkey business and crap the thread.
    In your ignorance you don't realize all 34 charges are the same thing but by breaking it down the way the other clown did makes ignorant folks think some big crime is being charged. :D
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  15. Mopar Dude

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    Bigger than showing our soft white underbelly to the rest of the world? No, I don’t think so.
     
  16. What U ignore

    What U ignore Thread KILLER

    You were asked another direct question yet you ignored it an posted your usual monkey business!
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    I wonder how much longer members will tolerate this disrespect?
     
  17. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    You should really have a look around at other countries and see what they do with corrupt leaders. They don't coddle them. Our allies from Italy, to France, to Israel, regularly indict and convict former corrupt officials.
     
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  18. What U ignore

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    @JoeNation

    Joey, we are all waiting to be amused with our little shovels for any more ignorant monkey business!

    Don't forget to watch our great past POTUS deliver a speech tonight. :D:p
     
  19. toughcoins

    toughcoins Rarely is the liberal viewpoint tainted by realism

    Okay . . . now you've gone too far.

    You're perfectly fine with letting off easy tens of thousands of common lawbreakers with hands caught in the cookie jar, yet would turn over every rock between the Atlantic and Pacific oceans to see Trump convicted of something, anything, even in the absence of evidence . . . even if you had to fabricate it in your own basement and plant it in his pocket.

    That's a pretty sleazy set of standards you live by.

    "Mirror, mirror on the wall, who's the fairest of them all? Oh, for sure, this Democrat is" . . . NOT!
     
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  20. What U ignore

    What U ignore Thread KILLER

    More BS! Your words have the gravity of the steam rising from a smelly pile. EXAMPLES JOE. We need examples. WHAT CONTRIES, WHAT LEADERS? IMO, your posts are useless fluff. You are not discussing politics with your ignorant democrat ilk praising the fake news.
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