Biden visits Kviv to reassure NATO full support vs Russian hordes

Discussion in 'World Events' started by John Kamps, Feb 21, 2023.

  1. John Kamps
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    John Kamps Well-Known Member

    Hopefully this will mean F-35s/ F-16s/ longrange precision missiles/ A-10 Warthogs/ Apaches. Its time to end this War and give that puke Putin his own medicine.
     
  2. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    So, you want WWWIII??? As much as I hate Putin, I would hate WWWIII even more. The smarter move is to slowly bleed Putin until he has nothing left. Cornering a mad dog is always more dangerous than letting it die of its own diseases.
     
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  3. CoinOKC
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    CoinOKC T R U M P

    Stop lying! Putin and the communists, socialists and social fascists in this country all share the same ideology. You would love for socialism to take over the U.S. the same as Putin would love to see it return to Russia.
     
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  4. John Kamps
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    No/ I want the same thing you want/ destroy the Russians with no NATO forces involved. But/ you have to give the Ukrainian people a chance to defend themselves vs the Russians. If we do not stop him (Putin) here in Ukraine/ Moldova would be next/ then the Baltic States (NATO) which would start WW3. Bombastic meglamaniacs like him, only prey on weakness/ inaction. I think sanctions/ cutting off all trade will hurt Russia/ China even more. Once the masses are hungry/ with no future or trust in their dictators/ unrest will turn into rebellion.
     
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  5. GeneWright

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    I'm not so sure NATO involvement means WW3 at this point. I know Belarus would probably join Russia if NATO forces were involved, but do you guys think China would? Their responses to the situation have been generally opposed to NATO, but also non-committal in terms of actionable promises. I think Russia is in a very weak position from flailing around so long in this conflict.

    I could be totally wrong here, so please correct me.
     
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  6. JoeNation
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    Probably why tump was Putin's best friend and Joe Biden is Putin's worst enemy. Trump and Putin even sound exactly alike.

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  7. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    Agreed, this proxy war is the cheapest way to fight Putin and no Americans need die in the process. The billions invested today is a drop in the bucket compared what it would cost us in blood and treasure in a direct confrontation. Japan just offered 5.5 billion in support. The other NATO countries are also chucking in lots and lots of support. This was a gift from Putin. He will never recover from this. The real question is who is likely to take his place? That is what we should be asking.
     
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  8. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    I doubt China is willing to risk confrontation with NATO over Russia. They would have little to gain by antagonizing such a huge trading partner like the US and our allies. They'll look out for China not Russia. They play the long game.
     
  9. toughcoins

    toughcoins Rarely is the liberal viewpoint tainted by realism

    What we should be asking is why are we stupid enough to let dwindle our preparedness for a much more serious conflict with China when they do decide it is time?

    For now, they are perfectly content to quietly support our adversaries just enough to drain our resources and corrode our alliances.

    This is one very long, very methodical march China is on, and very few have their eye on the ball.
     
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  10. What U ignore

    What U ignore Thread KILLER

    Dear @JoeNation,

    As usual, your opinions in this thread are based on your ignorance and are NUTS! It would take too much of my valuable time to destroy them one by one so just as any non-engaged, ignorant, little girlie monkey or your puppy dog (XXOO) I'll leave the thread. :D:p For now.
     
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  11. CoinOKC
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    Unfortunately Putin is laughing at our president, The Blumpkin. But then, the entire world is laughing at The Blumpkin, so......

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  12. CoinOKC
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    CoinOKC T R U M P

    What exactly IS WWWIII? Is that an internet address or something? Perhaps you're.... ummmm... thinking it's a wrestling organization? Just sayin'.
     
  13. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    Unfortunately, Putin is committing genocide and war crimes while you are siding with him against your own country. I'm sorry that we no longer have a president that compliments Putin, calls him a strong leader, and believes everything Putin says but the reality is that Putin is failing miserably and he knows it. You simply find yourself on the wrong side of history once again with no ability to see reality as it bit** slaps you in the face.

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  14. toughcoins

    toughcoins Rarely is the liberal viewpoint tainted by realism

    Actually, I think the sign
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    PLEASE DO NOT RETURN TO . . .


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  15. What U ignore

    What U ignore Thread KILLER

    JoeNation, posted: "Unfortunately, Putin is committing genocide and war crimes while you are siding with him against your own country. I'm sorry that we no longer have a president that compliments Putin, calls him a strong leader, and believes everything Putin says but the reality is that Putin is failing miserably and he knows it. You simply find yourself on the wrong side of history once again with no ability to see reality as it bit** slaps you in the face."

    What an ignorant post from a weak, old, Trump hating, chicken to engage! It makes total sense to me that all the little snowflakes, females and girlie-men love weakness over strength! There is no helping stupid. :(
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    Now I understand why ignorance is bliss and confrontation scares "softies."
     
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  16. John Kamps
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    Ever since their Revolution 1n 1918/ first Trotsky wanted to launch a Worldwide Marxist takeover of Western Democracies. Stalin had him murdered by NKVD thugs Mexico City. Stalin/ from NKVD archival papers/ plotted in late 1930s/ to build up the Soviet Naval/ Air/ Red Armies to achieve a takeover of Europe/ UK by 45. USA by 55. WW2 put in end to his dreams/ since the Soviet Union lost 45M thru purges/ famines/ gulags/ then another 25M KIA. Not to take in the 100K warplanes shot down by luftwaffe/ 100K+ tanks killed on battlefields.
    Putin also has an agenda/ he wants to make Russia "Great again" by restoring the original borders of the USSR+ add in Warsaw Pact Countries. If, the West did nothing, he would first take Ukraine/ Moldova/ Georgia/ Belarus/ all the Stans.
    Then when invading the Baltic States (NATO) WW3 would get involved.
    We should have listened to Patton in 45/ he wanted to attack the Soviets/ crush them/ then have a "Moscow Trials" for Stalin and his henchmen.
     
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  17. What U ignore

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    Don't confuse the ignorant with History!
     
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  18. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    Seems like Okie and the rest of the Reich wingers are going to have a big old sad when Russia falls apart...

    Everything is sinking': Wagner leader on key issue he's facing
    Yevgeny Prigozhin, head of the Russian private military company Wagner, acknowledged a "major problem" with ammunition supplies for his troops, amid a public spat with the leaders of Russia's defense establishment.

    Video: Wagner leader speaks on key issue he's facing | CNN

    Biden rocks! Trump would be sending Putin billions in aid.
     
  19. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    Things are just going swimmingly for Putin.

    Russia’s Top Paramilitary Chief Accuses Army Command of Treason

    The head of Russia’s Wagner mercenary group accused the country’s defense minister and its most senior general of treason on Tuesday, intensifying the most high-profile dispute in the Russian forces since the invasion of Ukraine began.

    Wagner’s founder, Yevgeny Prigozhin, who has been taking aim at military leaders in a series of increasingly hostile audio messages on social media this week, accused the “chief of the general staff and minister of defense” of withholding ammunition and supplies from his fighters to try to destroy Wagner, “which can be equated to treason.”

    “A bunch of military-related officials have decided that it is their country, that it is their people,” Mr. Prigozhin said in one profanity-laden audio message published by his press service on Tuesday. “They have decided that these people will die when it is convenient to them, when they feel like it.”

    Russia’s Defense Ministry denied Mr. Prigozhin’s claims, and raised the stakes by indirectly accusing the Wagner leader of damaging the war effort.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/21/world/europe/wagner-russia-military-prigozhin.html
     
  20. What U ignore

    What U ignore Thread KILLER

    Our little Theo, the non-engaged Trump hater does not know about all the military supplies from China going to Russia. So genius, when do you think Putin will be out? A few days, a week? Several months? Are the Russians going to have a civil war in the military? Is there going to be war with Nato?

    Your source, the NYT has become a filthy rag filled with propaganda and lies. They keep the resders they have left happy to be ignorant. It is the paper of record for Comunists, Progressives, liberal snowflakes, and non-engaging, cowardly girlie-men who are terrorized by puppies.
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