RELEASE THE AFFIDAVIT!!!

The "raid" was a setup, pure and simple. Anyone choosing to excite their cranial neurons should conclude the same. Just another "Witch Hunt" only this time it was aimed at any and all data that could be developed into a case against Trump. 2015 thru present, get Trump!

 

Can't wait for this to not be good enough either.

Judge orders Justice Dept. to prepare Trump affidavit redactions, leans toward disclosure

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article264637084.html

 

Is it good enough for YOU? Or do you want full transparency?

 

Seems a fellow in black robes doesn't think ALLEDGEDLY REMOVING AND DESTROYING ALLEDGEDLY (AGAIN) TOP SECRET ALLEDGEDLY (AGAIN) DOCUMENTS is a big deal, either.

So....

It is amazing that a fellow in black robes falling from the top of the Justice Dept, Mountain, can be described as "leaning". The Media, always defining, by not defining, what is going on.

 

We don't do that because it puts individuals in harm's way. Supposedly there's an informant who told the FBI exactly where to look for some items, if that's true, their identity needs to be protected.

Hilariously, Matt Gaetz' primary opponent is attempting to weaponize this against him and feeding right into the conspiracy loving constituents.

Ignore the text before and after the short ad, this was the cleanest version of it I could find.

 

It depends on what is redacted, exactly. I have no problem redacting names, but if they plan on redacting things like the items to be searched, what they're looking for, etc., then I have a big problem.

biden's stated objective was to "bring transparency and truth back to government". Does he want transparency in his government or not? Apparently not! But, it appears the judge will rule against the administration and for the side of transparency and truth. Let's see to what degree he does so.

 

The affadavit has been released. I look forward to responses here on why it isn't enough ~10 p.m. (after Carlson and Hannity finish airing)

 

Somebody has to tell them what to think. Remember when Trump would tweet word-for-word what had just aired on Hannity? The cable class.

 

Finally! Even though the DOJ was adamantly opposed to the transparency of releasing the affidavit (redacted as it is), the judge ruled against the biden administration, as expected. My question is, "Why didn't the biden administration want transparency"? Unless they have something to hide........

 

The Biden Administration? Hum? What does the Biden Administration have to do with any of this? They haven't said bubkes about the affidavit or the search unless asked by Fox News and then only to say they have nothing to do with the DOJ.

You are probably not used to an independent DOJ after Trump used it as his personal free legal team, but we are now back to where the DOJ and the White House are separate entities once again. Trump openly demanded multiple investigations of his political opponents. Those days are over. The adults are back in charge.

Honestly, I think that the independence of the DOJ was shot to hell under Trump and that Democrats shouldn't honor what the Republican Administrations didn't honor. Why should they? If Trump weaponized the DOJ, and he clearly did, I would love to see Biden do the same thing. Why not? If you found it acceptable under Trump, you would just be a hypocrite for not accepting under Biden. You don't want to be a hypocrite now do you?

 

Ok, I’ll bite. Name the demorats that had their homes raided. The only real investigation was the one into leakers like Adam Shiff.

 

Name the Democrats that stole secret documents including nuclear weapons documents and lists of spies. I will happily watch their homes be raided if you can point them all out.

Are you really willing to trust someone like Trump with our most secret national security information given what we've learned about him? Do you really believe his basement is the right place of these types of documents? How willing are you to let our foreign enemies get their hands on this stuff anyway? It kind of seems like you are rooting for our enemies at this point. What's that about?

 

Bush/Cheney actually. A lot of what Trump did was just derivative of the Bush/Cheney administration's use and interpretation of unitary executive theory as strong and sole.

 

FBI said there was likely "evidence of obstruction" and classified defense documents
The FBI told US Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart the search would likely find "evidence of obstruction" in addition to its explanation to the court that there was "probable cause to believe" that classified national security materials were improperly taken to "unauthorized" locations at Trump's resort.
"There is probable cause to believe that additional documents that contain classified (National Defense Information) or that are Presidential records subject to record retention requirements currently remain at (Mar-a-Lago)," the FBI affidavit said. "There is also probable cause to believe that evidence of obstruction will be found at (Mar-a-Lago.)"

FBI found 184 classified documents from 15 boxes earlier this year
When the FBI reviewed in May the 15 boxes the National Archives retrieved from the Florida resort in January, it found "184 unique documents bearing classification marking," the affidavit said.
Among the materials were "67 documents marked as CONFIDENTIAL, 92 documents marked as SECRET, and 25 documents marked as TOP SECRET," according to the filing.
The agent who submitted the affidavit noted that there were markings on the documents with multiple classified compartmentalized controls, as he told the court that "ased on my training and experience, I know that documents classified at these levels typically contain" national defense information.
Also, among the documents were what appeared to be handwritten notes by the former President, the affidavit said.

New details about how the DOJ got involved in the document fracas in the first place
The FBI affidavit reveals new insights into how the investigation began. It started after a criminal referral from the National Archives, which was sent to the Justice Department on February 9.
The Archives told the Justice Department that the boxes recovered in January contained "newspapers, magazines, printed news articles, photos, miscellaneous print-outs, notes, presidential correspondence, personal and post-presidential records, and a lot of classified records."
The Archives official said there was "significant concern" over the fact that "highly classified records were ... intermixed with other records" and weren't properly identified.
After receiving this information, the DOJ and FBI launched a criminal investigation into the matter, leading to the subpoena in June for classified material, and the search of Mar-a-Lago earlier this month.

Redactions keep obstruction evidence secret for now
One unredacted subhead in the affidavit cues up the probable cause the FBI had to believe that there were documents containing classified defense information and presidential records at Mar-a-Lago.
Most of the section that follows is redacted, and the unredacted subhead aligns with two of the criminal statutes the affidavit cited at the beginning.
But the third potential crime -- obstruction -- that was cited by the warrant materials does not have a corresponding unredacted subhead in the affidavit. The FBI would have had to provide the court its explanation of why it believed that there was likely evidence of that crime at Mar-a-Lago, so the absence of any unredacted details about that evidence signals that that part of department is particularly sensitive about that aspect of its investigation being made public.

Alphabet soup shows high sensitivity of docs Trump took from White House
The affidavit used a handful of acronyms when describing the sensitivity of the documents that were recovered from Mar-a-Lago earlier in the year. This alphabet soup is probably confusing to most Americans, but national security experts have said it reveals the horrifying scope of this security breach.
Some of the classified documents that Trump brought with him from the White House to Mar-a-Lago contained markings for "HCS, FISA, ORCON, NOFORN, and SI," according to the FBI affidavit.
"HCS" indicates that the material is about human sources, or spies, that often work with the CIA. "FISA" relates to court-ordered surveillance collecting foreign intelligence, including wiretaps. "ORCON" means the document is so sensitive that its originator must approve any request to share it. "NOFORN" means the material can't be shared with any foreign entities, even allies, without permission. "SI," short for Special Intelligence, relates to signals intercepts, which are typically handled by the National Security Agency.
These phrases confirm what many feared -- that the documents that may have been illegally mishandled at Mar-a-Lago contained some of America's most sensitive secrets.
DOJ keeping details about personnel involved close to the chest
The department said in its legal brief justifying the memos that that the FBI personnel who had already been identified as involved in the investigation had received "threats of violence from members of the public."
The FBI told the judge that "[m]inor but important" redactions in the affidavit were needed to "protect the safety of law enforcement personnel."
Even with the redactions, the affidavit revealed some information about the professional background of the FBI agent who submitted the affidavit. The affiant said that they were trained in "counterintelligence and espionage investigations" at the FBI Academy in Quantico, Virginia.
In the court proceedings around whether the affidavit should be released, the Justice Department has kept limited the number of its officials known to be involved. The legal filings in that dispute bear the signatures of just two DOJ attorneys: Juan Antonio Gonzalez, the US Attorney for the Southern District of Florida, and Jay Bratt, the chief of the Counterintelligence for the DOJ's National Security Division.
Bratt argued for the DOJ at the court hearing last week on unsealing the document -- a notable choice, given that there are numerous other lower-level DOJ attorneys who would have been equipped to argue the criminal procedure questions that were central to the dispute.

Trump team claims that he could unilaterally declassify the docs were surfaced for the judge
When seeking the warrant, the FBI made the judge aware that Trump's team had claimed that Trump had "absolute authority to declassify documents."
The affidavit cited, and included as an attachment, a letter Trump attorney Evan Corcoran sent the Justice Department in May -- after the existence of the investigation surfaced publicly -- asserting that Trump had such authority. As the affidavit noted, the letter instructed the DOJ to provide the letter to any court considering motions related to the investigation.
The affidavit also referenced a Breitbart article quoting Kash Patel, a former Trump national security aide who was named as one of Trump's designees to handle issues with his presidential records in June, as stating that Trump had declassified the materials retrieved by the National Archives in January.
The rest of the section in the affidavit, however, is classified, so it's not clear why federal investigators cited Patel's comments.
Since the FBI's search, Trump has pointed to a January 19, 2021, memo in which he declassified documents related to the FBI's Russia investigation. There's no evidence, however, that those materials were what the FBI was looking for when it searched Mar-a-Lago earlier this month.

 

Yes, they do have this tendency to believe that their guys are all above the law and all of our guys need to be investigated continuously.

 

I’m not the one claiming Trump was targeting leftist, YOU ARE. Like all leftist imbeciles, you think Trump was hiding nuclear information. Keep yakking, I would love to have more stupid narratives to embarrass you with.

 

What is your Left wing source synopsis of the affidavit, joey? It’s a far leftist opinion. Have any thoughts of your own? Word of the day, conjugation. Can you name them? Do you have the 6th grade intellect to know what they mean? I’ve read the whole affidavit, have you? There is a conjunction that tells anyone with intelligence all they need to know.

 

As far as I can tell here's the rundown.

Back in 2021:

Govt (G) - we noticed some docs were missing could you please return them all? Your hotel is not a secure place to store them.

Trump team (TT) - of course here's 12 boxes (proceeds to give 15 boxes)

G - oh my god, there's stuff in here that's top secret and related to national defense, your hotel is REALLY not secure enough for this. You returned everything though, right?

TT - yes.

-----Later-----

G - We have evidence they lied about returning all the documents, but they insist they have. We'll have to get them back with a search warrant.

TT - *social media message today in which Trump literally admits to the crime the affadavit was based on*



Returning "MUCH" is not "all"

 

Nice, you regurgitate that from Reddit or bookface? Did you read the affidavit?