That can't be done because "normal” is a fluid social construct and behavior deviating from it has never solely defined mental illness. I mean, we may get to a point where there are more homosexuals than heterosexuals in the world. Being heterosexual would be abnormal, but that obviously wouldn't make it a mental illness.
Why edit, Joe? The subject is not homophobia. It is scientific enquiry. I would think you would appreciate a robust discussion concerning the biological imperative of humans to procreate, and whether it is or is not an aberration to not have a biological imperative to do so? How does that translate to homophobia? Your utterings are, at best, utterings not supported by any scientific data. The more you post on the subject, the sillier your utterings are. To illustrate your useless weird analogy, just because the arsonist helps extinguish the fire, doesn't translate to awarding the arsonist a medal.
Well…. Since adults cannot seem to have an adult conversation these days. Let’s go on with the finger wagging and name calling. I’ll sit here in the corner and referee.
I don't really care if you accept it or not. To assert it's due to mental health disorder or taking that a step further that it should be treated is what I take issue with. No I'm not, Yak was, and you appeared to agree.
Normality is like Reality...everyone is free to choose their own. What becomes "normal" or "real" for a society is shared experiences that result in societal equilibrium...whatever that equilibrium might be. I've heard there are websites dedicated to people pooping on each other. Not my cup of tea, but to each their own. Government has no business looking into people's windows (physically or virtually). At the same time, no one wants to see that lifestyle flaunted in public and in media. Parents raising children have rights and responsibilities, too. If anyone thinks homosexuality isn't being marketed to children, just turn on TV.
Yes, via the simple fact that you are discussing the subject with with me, directed at me, that suggests you are defending against the posit of mental illness and doing so under the unsupported "appearance" (to you) that I agreed. How can you arrive at such an "appearance" conclusion? I did no such thing. That is a bit of a preconceived prejudice of my position (you are wrong, btw). Just because I give somebody a like, for explaining their posit, is not tacit agreement. I gave you a like, on a post. You seem to be disingenuous, in that you are deliberately misdirecting my comments and questions to you, to a discussion and accusation that I am a homophobe, to avoid answering the questions I presented for discussion. As to your issue with treatment as a step (and I don't care either way because I do not ascribe either way), you may be surprised to know there are 26 ICD Codes for just such treatment modalities, and there are 74 CPT Codes for the treatment of same. That would indicate there is a scientific medical component, that is definitely reimbursable to the treating physician. Your opening paragraph in your reply and declaration is silly and elementary pouting, and avoidance. I did not present a situation or like or not like, nor did I assert mental illness. How about we return to the questions and logic posit I posted, and asked you for your thoughts? I would not want to think you do not have any supportive position for a discussion, and therefore chose to use a diversion tactic.
I tried. I gave every benefit of the doubt that such a conversation could take place. It does not appear it was meant to be. It is simply a fact, if you discuss gay/homosexual issues in any but a tacit supportive manner, you are a nasty dirty bigoted homo. Intelligence fail.
Well, the troops have left and this is just a tad off-topic. If anyone want's to start a Gay thread, I'll be happy to contribute my thoughts.
Well, I sort of screwed up, because when I poste an answer to the member Gene post, I accidently embedded it in his post that I quoted. It is possible that he thought I was trying to pull some kind of cute shenaniganigansisis. I was not. I am just old. Maybe that is why he got so defensive and pouty and accusatory. I hope not.
Please note GeneWright, I awarded a "Like" to this post. Now what? Would you think you may have a conundrum on using a member's awarding a "Like", as an accusatorial weapon for your misguided assumptions of the member?
I'm listening to President Biden address the Nation. He's lost touch with reality. He agrees with Trump on the withdrawal, then says he executed it to perfection..."exactly as planned".
The problem here lately is pretty much the result of one member that was so insecure in his own opinions that he had to run over to the CT side and beg or help. You can see the the results of throwing the door open to trolls and idiots. We had a nice forum for a while and we did disagree on many topics but we generally were respectful of each other. That goes out the window when one member has to call in the Calvary because he's opinions weren't as wonderful as he thought. Wanna guess who he is?
Ask yourself why, after four years in office, Trump set the withdrawal date in the spring of 2021. If the answer is cowardice, you win the plushy.
I think the reality of the situation set in. He realized he couldn't just kick the chair out from under Afghanistan and decided on a negotiated withdrawal where equilibrium is maintained until all Nato forces and civilians were evacuated. He fully expected a second term to complete the job.