Gotta ask here, are you saying that fetuses are not babies or that there are circumstances where it's okay to kill babies? If it's the former, what's the problem with abortion in general? If it's the latter, why do you get to draw the line of where that's okay?
In years past, a person's family was their "retirement plan". Folks would have large families in hopes that half might survive into adulthood. In other words, abortion wasn't an issue. When I lived in Korea, people there didn't have birthdays; they had 100 Day parties. I don't know about now, but before, live births weren't recorded with the government until the baby survived 100 days and people celebrate the date they reached 100 days old. That's the date their birth became "official". When I think about my Korean experience, I can hear my Dad say..."I brought you into this world and I can take you out!" That made me realize that the issue really isn't about when life begins. It 's a question of when a person gains government (in our case, U.S. Constitutional) protections. The Korean government didn't protect Life until the 100 day mark. My Dad believed that point shouldn't occur until my 18th birthday. So, from this perspective, the question becomes..."At what point should U.S. Constitutional protections begin?" If not at conception, then when?
If "zygote" is your word for "illegal alien", then Biden does. For sake of argument, the slate is clean. You can choose any point for when U.S. Constitutional rights should be recognized for each person? When would that date be? ...or would it be conditional? Should Constitutional rights only be enforced for those with ESG scores above a government approved minimum?
. This is not completely accurate. Until 2020, abortion was illegal. In 2020, the Supreme Court ruled it was an illegal law. The law was changed to prevent abortion after 14 weeks, and 24 weeks in the case of rape, incest, or the health of the woman. A married woman must still have the permission of her husband. This change in law was based on Reproductive Rights. The 100 day recognition of the day of birth, a tradition thousands of years old and still practiced in China and Vietnam, has not changed, nor has the recordation of same changed. The basis of this age reckoning system is to protect human life from the moment of conception. I know. Full disclosure: I had to edit because before I was finished typing, I hit the wrong key and only half was posted. I am sure, though, that Joe would have preferred any brevity to the entire post.
I believe the ultrasound and abortion laws were put in place to prevent poor Koreans from aborting daughters. Daughters were considered liabilities who eventually leave to join her husband's family.
I wrote fetuses, not because I don't consider them babies but, because that's ultimately the argument abortion-rights advocates eventually resort to when they find themselves losing ground. Figured I'd save us all a bit of time getting that word right out there up front.
No, that is not correct, although it was a widely held belief in the Western world, based on early Jesuit influential writings disseminated to Europe and the West. However, the modern version of the daughter uselessness, and protection of females that you mention, was implemented by Communist China, when the Proletarian awareness that the population was dropping precipitously and peasant practices of the sort you allude to, were a grave danger. I think what you are mentioning, is the overlap of confusion between the South Korean and North Korean border territories, a dismal and incredibly ancient customs area, that have not really moved forward since before the Korean war.
When I lived there in the '80s, We had year-long fund raisers for the local orphanage. It culminated at the Chinmuck Festival in late Summer. A coworker and his wife decided to adopt a beautiful 4 year old girl from the orphanage. She lived with them for about six months. When the adoption paperwork was nearly complete, the girls family spoke up (she wasn't an orphan after all) and asked for $50,000 to agree to the adoption. That's that way it was there in the '80s.
I can believe that. The far rural area peasants would trade or sell their daughters to the Catholic orphanages. This practice has been outlawed.
And that's my point . . . the discussion always seems to begin with babies, and then liberals claim conservatives are changing the subject when applying the right to life to fetuses because it started out as a discussion about a baby's right to life.