The "Spanish" Flu

Discussion in 'World Events' started by clembo, Apr 5, 2021.

  1. clembo

    clembo Well-Known Member

    The "Spanish" flu has never really gone away.

    “The 1918 flu definitely lost its real virulence by the early 1920s,” says Taubenberger.

    But what’s truly incredible, according to genetic analyses, is that the same novel strain of flu first introduced in 1918 appears to be the direct ancestor of every seasonal and pandemic flu we’ve had over the past century.

    “You can still find the genetic traces of the 1918 virus in the seasonal flus that circulate today,” says Taubenberger. “Every single human infection with influenza A in the past 102 years is derived from that one introduction of the 1918 flu.”

    Covid won't either.

    Read more if you're curious.

    https://www.history.com/news/1918-flu-pandemic-never-ended
     
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  2. yakpoo
    Cynical

    yakpoo Well-Known Member

    When COVID first reached the U.S., it sounded like it was something that needed to run its course and we needed "15 days to slow the spread"...to prepare facilities and therapeutics. A vaccine wasn't even thought be a possibility in less than 5 years. Now that everything is in place, we have three (3) effective vaccines, and a variety of therapeutics...why don't we want to let it run its course? Are all these extraordinary measures only making matters worse by creating other Public Health problems? Government and healthcare don't mix.
     
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  3. ddddd

    ddddd Well-Known Member

    It’s like people forgot about trade offs….


    “Global extreme poverty is expected to rise in 2020 for the first time in over 20 years as the disruption of the COVID-19 pandemic compounds the forces of conflict and climate change, which were already slowing poverty reduction progress, the World Bank said today.

    The COVID-19 pandemic is estimated to push an additional 88 million to 115 million people into extreme poverty this year”

    https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/p...d-as-many-as-150-million-extreme-poor-by-2021
     
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  4. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    I wish that using the 1918 Flu as a comparison to emphasize a point would change it to 1915, since it was the start of the perfect storm of 3 strains that married, and the strains have had a lot of grandchildren and great grandchildren and great great grandchildren. It is not unique in any manner. It is just nature doing what nature does.

    As to the extreme poverty, this is the kind of disingenuous attention headlines that are irritating.
    Extreme poverty vs. poverty is a construct that is what the UN says it is, and the UN uses data points from the World Bank.
    Some conveniently left out facts: 80% of the world population lives off $30/day.

    The population in 2001 was 6.3 billion. The population in 2020 was 7.8 billion. What the hell did anybody at the UN and the World Bank think was going to happen? No problem, they now have the perfect storm to make us feel guilty: we made poor people poorer and made more people poor because we didn't care about CV19 because we are non-caring overeaters.

    The UN changed the definition of the poverty line. In 2015 The UN revised the poverty line downward. What they didn't do, was adjust it for consumption levels vs. population increase. This would equate to an international poverty line, to be sure, however, poverty does not cause population increase. It is the other way around.

    The World Bank could help, by selling it's incredible plush offices and land and beautiful international acclaimed artistic buildings it owns, and feed people if it cares so much about poverty. Then they could stop making bogus loans to despotic and criminal and graft controlled governments, and then constantly try to blame the U.S. for being cheapskates and not doing enough.

    Maybe the World Bank can start by selling their D.C. digs, and dismissing all their lobbyists that are on a continuous tour of the halls of Congress.

    The World Bank has one goal: To be self-serving, with the biggest Monopoly Piggy Bank growth in history, filled by the efforts of others. I am not impressed by their sincere insincerity. It has been their playbook my entire life, it seems, and when they need more play money, they come up with another statistic increase that serves their operation.

    CV19 was the best thing that happened to the World Bank as a give me more money campaign, and they are adept at taking advantage of it.
     
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  5. yakpoo
    Cynical

    yakpoo Well-Known Member

    Politicians are ballooning this "crisis" for political gain. We The People need to establish better boundaries for our politicians...a special judicial process to hold politicians to account. Politicians have placed themselves above the law...and that needs to end so stupid, crooked people (Kamala Harris) aren't attracted to the profession.
     
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  6. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Well-Known Member

    it's not the government's job to take care of people
     
  7. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    I am giving you the benefit of the doubt that there will come a day when you post a sincere Logic Posit that is not based on illogical logic.
     
  8. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Well-Known Member

    get sick soon. don't forget to write
     
  9. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    Don't forget to take your football off the field when you leave, so the other kids can't play.
     
  10. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Well-Known Member

    It's an interesting political strategy the GOP are embarking on, letting their constituents die and have permanent health problems in order to make the Democratic president look bad for a little while. Let's see how it plays out for them.
     
  11. Mopar Dude

    Mopar Dude Well-Known Member

    That sounded strangely conservative to me....
     
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  12. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Well-Known Member


    it was satire. something a fool would say seriously
     
  13. yakpoo
    Cynical

    yakpoo Well-Known Member

    Where in the Constitution do we grant the Federal government that power?
     
  14. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    You know the answer....stop antagonizing.

    "....Promote the general welfare...."

    This means free stuff for everybody, courtesy of this new Federal Republic. I am surprised you don't know the words of the Constitution.

    Full disclosure, for the benefit of my esteemed new friend that is confused about satire: the sentences before this run-on sentence are....yep....satire.
     
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  15. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Well-Known Member


    so all rules and regulations are unconstitutional. vehicles standards, food safety standards, pollution standards, etc/
     
  16. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    How precious.
     
  17. yakpoo
    Cynical

    yakpoo Well-Known Member

    Just because something seems like a good idea doesn't mean government coercion should be used to attain it.
     
  18. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Well-Known Member


    who needs food safety regs or building codes.

    CAVEAT EMPTOR
     
  19. yakpoo
    Cynical

    yakpoo Well-Known Member

    It just occurred to me...when the Left gets done covering their asses, the Public will be done covering their faces.
     
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  20. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    I always thought the Romans were suckers.
     

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