The Worst Is Yet To Come

Discussion in 'Politics' started by yakpoo, Aug 21, 2021.

  1. yakpoo
    Cynical

    yakpoo Well-Known Member

    With all these "Infidels" crowed around the Kabul Airport, what's to keep the Taliban from lighting off a bomb or two in the crowd? ...or maybe wait for U.S. forces to expose themselves. I fear that the worst is yet to come. :(
     
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  2. Profiler
    Inspired

    Profiler Well-Known Member

    I pray you’re wrong. I have no confidence in this administration. Unfortunately, neither does the rest of the world. God help Taiwan, if China decides to take them over, this administration will not help. Hell, Joe didn’t even want to go after Osama after he killed Americans on our on soil. Why should any country think we would help them under his administration?
     
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  3. toughcoins

    toughcoins Rarely is the liberal viewpoint tainted by realism

    Joe Biden's view of what national defense should be . . . .
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    Duck & Cover!
     
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  4. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Well-Known Member

  5. ddddd

    ddddd Well-Known Member

    It’s possible they wait to do anything major to maximize the impact.
     
  6. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Well-Known Member

    Most won’t say it, so I will:
    America has thankfully lost another war. Let’s make this the last.
    This is nothing here to celebrate. This should only be a monumental gut-check moment of serious reflection and a desire to seek redemption for ourselves. We don’t need to spend a single minute right now analyzing how Biden has or has not messed up while bravely handling the end of this mess he was handed — including his incredible private negotiations all this week with the Taliban leaders to ensure that not a single enemy combatant from the occupying force (that would be us; e.g., U.S. soldiers and spies and embassy staff), will be harmed. And Biden so far has gotten every American and foreign journalist out alive, plus a promise from the Taliban that those who stay to cover it will not be harmed. And not a single one has! Usually a force like the Taliban rushes in killing every enemy in sight. That has not happened! And we will learn that it was because of the negotiating skills and smarts of the Biden team that there was no mass slaughter. This is not Dunkirk.
    Dozens of planes have safely taken off all week — and not one of them has been shot down. None of our troops in this chaotic situation have been killed. Despite the breathless shrieks of panic from maleducated journalists who think they’re covering the Taliban of the 1990s (Jake Tapper on CNN keeps making references to “beheadings“ and how girls might be “kidnapped” and “raped” and forced to become “child brides”), none of this seems to be happening. I do not want to hear how we “need to study” what went wrong with this Taliban victory and our evacuation because (switching to all caps because I can’t scream this loud enough): WE ARE NEVER GOING TO FIND OURSELVES IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS AGAIN BECAUSE OUR DAYS OF INVADING AND TAKING OVER COUNTRIES MUST END. RIGHT? RIGHT!!
    Just look at this:
    Korea.
    Vietnam.
    Cambodia.
    Iraq (1991).
    Iraq (2003).
    Afghanistan.
    There are two themes that run through this list of countries we’ve invaded since World War II.
    One, none of them ever invaded us or posed any kind of threat to our lives — the only true justification to ever use armed force.
    And number two, they ain’t white. Since May 8, 1945, for some reason, we only kill people of color. Probably just a co-inky-dinky.
    As with the Viet Cong in Vietnam, we were defeated in Afghanistan by a rag-tag army that did not own a single helicopter, not a single jet fighter, no stealth bombers, no missiles, no napalm, no Burger King at the PX, not one air conditioned tent — not one! — not a goddamn tank in sight, just a bunch of guys with beards in pick-up trucks firing bullets into the air. Oh, and one other similarity with Vietnam — it was their country! Not ours. We were the invaders. In Vietnam we killed 2 million people. In Afghanistan, estimates of the dead go as high as 250,000. In Iraq we killed nearly a million (going back to Bill Clinton’s civilian bombing campaign).
    We spent over $2.4 trillion in Afghanistan for 20 years while the poor in America went without food, medical care, decent schools. The water in the Black-majority city of Flint was poisoned by the Governor. A thousand people shot by the police in the U.S. each year.
    We sacrificed over 2,400 American lives to invade a country where Bin Laden was nowhere to be found. Bush said early on he no longer had any interest in capturing him. In 2011, Obama’s seal team found him in a house just down the road from Pakistan’s “West Point”. Who woulda thought!
    What a tragic mess. Defund the military-industrial complex, defund the NSA, defund Homeland Security. They sent our young troops to their deaths. For shame! No Afghan attacked the World Trade Center. 15 of the 19 hijackers on 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia! Not from Afghanistan, not Iraq, not Iran. How come “Bandar Bush” — the Saudi Royal Family’s tender nickname for their longtime friend, George W. Bush — why didn’t Bush attack Saudi Arabia? Oh. Right. They have something we need. Fill ‘er up!
    So, yes, we lost this stupid, senseless war and I’m happy that it has finally ended. Our fake Afghanistan Army couldn’t wait for us to leave — and, as soon as we did, the Afghan soldiers stripped off their fake Army costumes we gave them, threw them to the ground and spit on them. They joined the Taliban in the streets in celebration. The Taliban did not shoot a single one of them. The Afghan interpreters and others who colluded with the enemy, the USA, for 20 years — yes, they might be in trouble (just like if Russia invaded Alaska and a bunch of Alaskans collaborated with them and after the Russians left some Americans might want retribution from the collaborators). You get that, right?
    The pundits on TV wail: “We’ve abandoned our Afghan helpers! No one will ever trust us again! No one will ever believe us! Our word is no good!!”
    EXACTLY! Correct! Yessss! We should never be believed! Note to the rest of the world: You see us coming? RUN! Nothing but tragedy awaits you. Do NOT help us. If we sign a climate agreement, we will not follow it! If we sign a nuclear deal with your mullahs, don’t believe it. It only means we’re getting ready to bomb you. And you should know that when it comes to we, the American public, there is not a single morning where we ever wake up thinking about you or giving a rat’s ass whether 80% of your people live in a state of oppressive abject poverty. It’s always only about us, baby — and what YOU can do for US, for our AMERICAN WAY OF LIFE!
    And by the way, make sure there’s always a roof where we can land that goddamn escape helicopter when we need to get the F outta Dodge!
    It’s always Saigon Time in America.
    P.S. May our troops and the Afghan civilians someday forgive us. Much condolences and love to all families who lost loved ones in this disgustingly sad war. I can only imagine how you all have felt this week. Nineteen of our American veterans commit suicide every single day. Please, don’t leave us. I/we will not abandon you. (If you need to talk to someone, call 800-273-8255).
     
  7. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    An interesting concept of failure of military intervention. I especially enjoyed the "they ain't white" commentary in support of the presentation.
     
  8. Mopar Dude

    Mopar Dude Well-Known Member

    And for all my conservative friends.... If this doesn't scare the pants off you..... Rather than dissecting the half truths that are presented in this temper tantrum, I'll just ask you to read it closely and allow it to soak all the way in.
     
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  9. yakpoo
    Cynical

    yakpoo Well-Known Member

    It amazes me how anyone with views like that would ever want to call themselves "American". I appreciate him taking the time to share his thoughts, though...in his own words. At it's core, I sense a Pro-Trump, America-First seed. We just need to nurture it. :)
     
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  10. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Well-Known Member


    actually it's a post from Michael Moore. You can dismiss it all you want but there is some truth in that
     
  11. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Well-Known Member


    is he wrong? "And number two, they ain’t white. Since May 8, 1945, for some reason, we only kill people of color. Probably just a co-inky-dinky."
     
  12. yakpoo
    Cynical

    yakpoo Well-Known Member

    I suppose the "white" Muslims I helped liberate in Bosnia and Herzegovina don't count...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_War

    Why do you always try to boil everything down to race? That's what Racists do.
     
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  13. Mopar Dude

    Mopar Dude Well-Known Member

    Out of all that diatribe, why is that the only piece of information that you want to harp on? It strikes me as funny because whenever I mention my black daughter, you don't want to hear about that. You want your cake and eat it too? I wonder if Michael Moore has the cajones to face an enemy? Hmmm, let me guess... Probably spent his Vietnam years spitting on returning soldiers.
     
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  14. yakpoo
    Cynical

    yakpoo Well-Known Member

    There's "some truth" to the generalization that Jews are hard working and thrifty...but does that justify the Holocaust? Why do underachievers believe that genocide is the only answer?
     
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  15. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Well-Known Member


    I was responding to "charley".
     
  16. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Well-Known Member


    I don't know why you keep mentioning your black daughter, it strikes me as "I have black friends"

    Why are the Vietnamese "the enemy"? Who will be the last man to die for a mistake?

    'In Vietnam we killed 2 million people.". Not our proudest moment.
     
  17. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Well-Known Member


    so Michael Moore was right when he says it's just a "coinky dink"
     
  18. Mopar Dude

    Mopar Dude Well-Known Member

    The inconvenient truth here is that you libs are more color obsessed than you like to admit. As long as it fits nicely into your box, everyone is racists besides yourselves, yet you folks are the tinder that is building the fire.
     
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  19. charley

    charley Well-Known Member

    Korea: Asian attacking Asian.
    Vietnam: Asian attacking Asian.
    Cambodia: Asian attacking Asian.
    Iraq 1991: A Middle East country attacking and occupying another Middle East country.
    Iraq 2003: An attack on Iraq by UK, The U.S., Denmark, Poland and Australia. 5 Middle East countries, including Saudi Arabia and Kuwait supported and in part financed the invasion.

    Michael Moore: White. That is all I know about him. I know some other stuff, but I know he is not Asian or Middle Eastern, so he doesn't count.
     
  20. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Well-Known Member


    so the US troops are asia attacking asia even though we killed millions of them (to save them)
     

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