Controversial opinions

Why would I want get lost? . . . I’d be sharing the same room with you.

 

This confirms my suspicions about @FryDaddyJr. He’s a lot younger than I first thought. It seems that he had a job in the medical insurance industry but does not now seem to have it. That made me think he was older. Now he’s acting like a teenager who is a Democrat.

 

whatever you say, anklebiter

 

In general, I don't think you're totally wrong on these points.

Democrats and apathy - I view it a bit differently. I think both parties encourage apathy, across both parties we have remarkably low voter turnout for an industrialized nation. I think the party may be more pro-apathy, but the "supporters" are more fired up than ever, as evidenced by the mass protests. I put supporters in quotes because there's many of us younger progressives that realize neither party actually supports our values, though we reluctantly support the Democrats because at least it's closer. Having no real representative support can do a lot to encourage apathy.

Poverty- there's definitely some people choosing to live off welfare, but I don't think that's inherently a bad thing. The only way I can try to counter this is by bringing up lowering class mobility:


https://www.forbes.com/sites/aparna...y-on-yet-another-metric-of-economic-mobility/

Now it could be that more people are choosing to do less, but for such a massive decrease, it seems likely it's multi-factor. So, while more people may be choosing to live in poverty, it's also harder to get out than ever before if you were born into it.

Biden - did you get a chance to watch his DNC speech? It was refreshing to see compassionate and presidential leadership. For his political record, I'd also bring up that the role of VP is the help secure votes for bills in Congress, Obama largely credited him with getting the ACA through. Whether you think that's good or not, he certainly has some sway in those circles.

I don't think you're totally wrong, he's no Obama, but I think he has a lot of experience and political capital in Washington to use in getting things done.

 

That’s redundant JH, most Democrats are teenagers.

 

ever look at a trump rally? only old fat white men

 

Might I remind you that before the pandemic unemployment rates among Blacks and Hispanics were at an all-time low. Labor participation rates were also rising after they had fell during the Obama administration. Wages were also going up, especially for the lower wage earners. All of these things show that capitalism and free markets work when they are allowed to flourish without excessive government interference.

People build self-esteem when they have a job and are earning their own way. It goes down when you getting hand-outs from the government that do nothing to improve your quality of life or aspirations.

A lot of this welfare garbage got started during the Lyndon Bains Johnson’s “Great Society” program. (Johnson was president from 1963 to 1969.) Johnson’s policies encouraged people to stop working and get on welfare. It broke up Black families and undermined the nuclear family structure which is the cornerstone to successful child rearing. When you add the Vietnam War to Johnson’s list of programs, he comes out as the worst president of my lifetime.

Jackie Kennedy has right. “Colonel Corn Pone” was a kind name for him. “Homewrecker” and “ignoramus” are more fitting.

Here is a 1964 Johnson button that was filled with false promises. He brought the country war, massive inflation and a recession. His policies were anything but "moderate."

Maybe you should re-think the socialist position you were fed in college and start think for yourself. I was Democrat who worked for George McGovern in 1972 and Jimmy Carter in 1976.

My awakening came when I looked around and saw what their policies were doing to the general welfare of the country. You would have loved McGovern. He was years ahead of his time from the Socialist-Democrat point of view. Unfortunately his policies were not based on reality, but I was too young to see it. Things turned around for me when I was 30 years old.

People thought that way when they voted for James Buchanan in 1856. This vintage 1856 campaign token gives you his resume. Few presidential candidates have had a background of offices held to equal this:



Despite this impressive resume, most historians rate Buchanan as the worst president in history. Why? Like Biden he had no defined program other than a commitment to placate the slave owners. He figured that the Dred Scott decision, which declared that African-Americans were not citizens, would settle the issue. It only inflamed it. In the end he allowed the Confederacy seize military goods and installations, which made them stronger to fight the Civil War.

Years later Buchanan said that history would vindicate him. It never has, and it never will.

Biden is like Buchanan. He is a political hack who has had few original thoughts in his life. Adding to this is the fact that he way past his prime, not that his prime ever amounted to much.

Trump came to office with a fresh perspective. He got the economy moving again and got it working for a large number of Americans, especially those who wanted to get out and work.

His foreign policy has worked wonders. He is getting the Arabs and the Israelis to come together to face a common foe. He has succeeded where Kissinger and others failed for years. He is getting the Europeans to pay their fair share in NATO after years of living off The United States. He put a big hurt on ISIS, and he has re-negotiated trade deals the went against the interests of the American worker.

The main stream press will never report these facts because they have almost all been indoctrinated by the college professors who infected your mind. If you want things to get better in this country for the vast majority of people, think about giving power to the people instead of the government. That’s where true freedom lies.

 

Bigot

 

COMMUNSTS>>GOHBLESS

 

You know @Mopar Dude, the KKK had the burning cross as its symbol. Perhaps @FryDaddyJr should adopt the burning business, the Molotov cocktail and the torched automobile as his political symbols.

 

I googled this one to see what he's taking about. He's in such a state that he can't communicate in English any more.

My inquiry came back with "God Bless you" or "God Bless America." It's good to know that @FryDaddyJr believes in God, although that could give him some problems if those who agree with his political positions were learn that fact at one of their demonstrations. People have been attacked for less. You can't even enjoy a meal a restaurant these days without some activist getting in your face and telling you to raise your fist in solidarity.

 

Trump has done a great job dealing with Covid 19...LOL

It'll just go away if I call it names....Kung Flu virus, ChyNa Virus

 

Poor guy. It’s a wonder that he can’t fathom just how foolish he appears. I saw a thread where he was poking fun at uneducated people. I am proud to say I earned an 8th grade formal education and can reason circles around the poor fellow. The scary part is Flydaddy is what I fear our current educational system is giving the world.

 

Intent

 

Biden wanted to let more Chinese into the country last winter after Trump announced his travel ban on China. Biden went so far as to call Trump's move "xenophobic." Now Biden has forgotten he said that, not the he can remember much of anything, including what he had for breakfast, these days.

 

The KKK did not have burning crosses as it's symbol until they saw it happening in a movie. The Birth of a Nation by D.W. Griffith showed a cross burning for the first time in 1915.

@JohnHamilton again needs a history lesson and an education in general.

 

The original topic.

 

Horndog

 

I would caution you against conflating having employment with having autonomy over class mobility.

Not for long...

That's what we're trying to do! Give autonomy and power back to the working class rather than their employers.

On that note, I have another controversial take:

The largest source of discrimination in the U.S. is economic inequality. Not to say it should be equal, but rather that I find classism far more widespread and accepted than racism. Hand in hand with that: slavery, Jim-crow laws, and the like have lead to uneven racial distributions within class, allowing racism and classism to intertwine.

We have a system set up to empower and enrich the employers at the cost of the working class. Corporate lobbyists are writing laws and unions have been crippled to keep this imbalance in place. Some thoughts for labor day. Might come back and try to flesh out these claims later.