Some Californians Want to Secede From The Union

Discussion in 'Politics' started by CoinOKC, Jan 28, 2017.

  1. CoinOKC
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    'Calexit' supporters can start work to make ballot

    January 27, 2017

    Californians who want their state to secede from the United States can now start collecting signatures to put the initiative on the 2018 ballot.

    The Yes California Independence Campaign has been around for at least two years, but the election of President Trump only saw increased momentum for the so-called Calexit cause. Trump lost California by more than 4 million votes, fueling interest in a Calexit — a play on the United Kingdom's "Brexit" campaign that saw that country's voters decide to leave the European Union.

    The California secretary of state’s office announced that the group could begin collecting signatures on Thursday.

    The group needs 585,407 signatures from registered voters over the next 180 days to qualify for the ballot.

    If the 2018 ballot initiative passes, it would force a 2019 statewide special election asking voters if they want California to become an independent country.
    Supporters first proposed a ballot measure to the state attorney general’s office in November.

    According to a summary prepared by the state attorney general, if the measure got onto the ballot and passed, it would repeal clauses in the California Constitution stating that the state is an "inseparable part of the United States" and that the U.S. Constitution is the "supreme law of the land," the Los Angeles Times reported.

    It's not clear whether a California secession would be handled by the federal government, even if the state's voters approved it.
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    But, wait. Let's see what JoeNation had to say back on 11/20/12:

    Note: RED lettering is added by me.

    Anyway, I'd really like to hear from JoeNation on how he feels about California starting a petition to secede.
     
  2. justafarmer

    justafarmer Well-Known Member

  3. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    Not legal. But we can make an except for Okies.
     
  4. justafarmer

    justafarmer Well-Known Member

    What is not legal Joe? California passes a referendum to secede - of which all the States including California ratify with 2/3rds majority.
     
    Last edited: Jan 30, 2017
  5. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    A California referendum does not get voted on by all fifty states.
     
  6. justafarmer

    justafarmer Well-Known Member

    Oh come on Joe, California seceding from the US would probably require passing an Amendment to the US Constitution.
     
  7. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    That's very different than the other states voting on a California referendum. Admit it.
     
  8. justafarmer

    justafarmer Well-Known Member

    California passes a referendum (The beginning of the process) "-" (the dash representing all the process in between) ratify by 2/3s of the States (last step of the process). Did you assume I was referring to California Secession being only a two step process?
     
  9. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    Well then, -

    I hope that clears things up.
     

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