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    Pope Francis, tear down those walls!!!
     
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  3. LucyRay
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    Judge not, lest ye be judged yourself.. Matt 7:1

    I'm truly surprised the pope would say what he said.. Maybe something was lost in the translation? That's one of the biggies, in my book; not judging someone else's relationship with their maker. I think we can and do make a lot of assumptions about people based on their actions. Just not their salvation issues. IMO.
     
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  4. JoeNation
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    I'm not even Catholic and if it comes down to the pope or Donald Trump, I will have to go with the pope 1 million times over Trump. Trump is the apex of snakeoil salesmen. He speaks only to a segment of the population that have allowed themselves either though neglect or situational circumstances to make themselves vulnerable to Trumps empty rhetoric. If there was ever a group whose common denominator was more dim witted, scared, and easy to lie to, I can't think of who they might be. I understand why some people would follow Cruz to prove to themselves that they are worthy of the only thing that is real to them, that being an imaginary deity. The rest of the Right's soon to drop crop are just niche pretenders.
    I wonder if any Trump supporter would be willing to read a bunch of his speeches? I wonder how many of them can read?
     
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    Yep, anything to abase the right - truth or fiction makes no difference.

    I am far from a Trump supported (except against Hillery and Bernie), but that is a joke. Not only is the Pope entirely out of his area, but he is as much a hypocrite as Obama and Mr. RBGUPI.
     
  6. JoeNation
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    I think if you reach the point where you're pissing off the pope, you might want to think about your words a little more. Not that Trump doesn't put himself on par with God but the pope kind of God's spokesperson.

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    Who knew??

    Ten Characteristics of the Anti-Christ According to the Bible
    by JACK WELLMAN

    What are the characteristics of the anti-Christ? Are there some people alive that have these characteristics already? How can we identify the anti-Christ by his attributes?

    What is an Anti-Christ?
    The word “anti” means to be opposed to or to be the opposite of. You could say that anything that has the prefix “anti” on it is against what it is attached to. The word “anti” literally means to be opposed too. Like the word antibacterial means that the substance attacks bacteria or is against bacteria. So the anti-Christ attacks anything about Christ; His message, His person, His character. There are many anti-Christ’s out there today and there always have been since the time of Christ on earth. This is nothing new today. The fact that there are anti-Christ’s, lower-case “a”, has nothing to do with the Anti-Christ, upper-case “A.” There are many anti-Christs but there is only one Anti-Christ.

    The Characteristics of the Anti-Christ
    Paul spoke of one man as being the man of lawlessness (2 Thes 2:3-4). Since we know the difference between the many anti-Christs and the Anti-Christ, let’s look at Scripture to identify ten characteristics of the Anti-Christ. Some theologians say that there are up to 37 characteristics of the Anti-Christ’s so we know that there are more than ten but we will only look at the most obvious of these ten, although you may think of different ones other than those mentioned here.

    He Will Blaspheme God
    Many of these same characteristics of the one Anti-Christ are also held by the many anti-Christ’s. One of the greatest of these characteristics is that he will blaspheme the holy name of God. In Revelation 13:6 it says, “And he opened his mouth in blasphemies against God, to blaspheme His name and His tabernacle, that is, those who dwell in heaven.” Many who are unbelievers blaspheme God too when they use God’s name as a swear word. This includes the vain use of Jesus’ name as it is written in Exodus 20:7 (and several other places), “You shall not misuse the name of the LORD your God, for the LORD will not hold anyone guiltless who misuses his name.” In fact Jesus warned that every idle word that men and women speak they will have to give an account for in the Day of Judgment. Let that sink in.every idle word! That includes every word that is used with God’s name in useless, vain or even casual speaking like “Oh my God!”

    He Claims to be God and is Worshiped
    A strong characteristic is that the Anti-Christ will seek to be worshpped like God is as Paul writes, “Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God“ (2 Thes 2:3-4). This Anti-Christ is identified as the “man of lawlessness” and will not appear until the “rebellion” occurs (Rev 17). This man is supposed to come to power during the Tribulation and he will set in the temple of God to proclaim himself as God.

    He Will Display Miraculous Powers
    Paul knew that this man of lawlessness would dazzle those who are deceived and that is why many will worship him. In 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12 Paul writes that “The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie, and all the ways that wickedness deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.” The sad fact is that people will be so far removed from knowing Jesus Christ that they won’t recognize the true God from the false one. These powers are also mentioned in Revelation 13:13 as he “performed great signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven, to the earth in full view of the people.” The difference is Jesus never performed miracles to draw attention to Himself but to glorify God. The Anti-Christ will try and draw glory to himself with miracles (John 4:48).

    The Anti-Christ Comes Back to Life
    Just like Jesus Christ died on the cross and was resurrected, the Anti-Christ will recover from what was considered a mortal wound. After this happened he “ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived“ (Rev 13:14). What a feat that will cause many to be motivated by the sight of this “fatal wound [that]had been healed“; so much so that many will worship him (Rev 13:12). This is imitating Jesus Christ again for even the disciple Thomas doubted that Jesus could recover from the death at His crucifixion but when he saw the resurrected Christ he confirmed that Jesus was Lord and God (John 20:28).

    The Anti-Christ Rules in Full Authority
    The Anti-Christ, again mimicking Jesus sovereignty, will rule for 42 months over the earth. For three and a half years he “was given authority to continue [literally “make war”] for forty-two months” (Rev 13:5). In fact the Anti-Christ “was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation“ (Rev 13:7). Christians know who actually reigns supreme for Jesus is Lord of all and has been given all authority in heaven and on earth. The Anti-Christ thinks he has power but he is given only as much power as God allows him to have. All this mans power is within the sovereign plan of God as God can even use evil for good.
     
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    The Anti-Christ Will Control the World’s Economy
    Whoever rules the world’s goods rules the unsaved world. This man will have “forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name“ (Rev 13:16-17). When people start getting hungry, they will do almost anything to keep from starving. Even submit to an ungodly ruler. He causes everyone to receive a mark so that they can’t even buy food or any goods at all unless they have his mark upon them. This is also mimicking the sovereign God who gives to all, great and small, the sustenance to survive. The Anti-Christ makes everyone receive his mark but this mark comes with a great price.

    The Anti-Christ Desecrates God’s Temple
    Daniel 11:31 mentions this abomination of desolation as his “armed forces will rise up to desecrate the temple fortress and will abolish the daily sacrifice. Then they will set up the abomination that causes desolation.” The “daily sacrifice is abolished“ (Dan 12:11). He can not be trusted because “He will invade the kingdom when its people feel secure, and he will seize it through intrigue. Then an overwhelming army will be swept away before him; both it and a prince of the covenant will be destroyed. After coming to an agreement with him, he will act deceitfully, and with only a few people he will rise to power. When the richest provinces feel secure, he will invade them and will achieve what neither his fathers nor his forefathers did. He will distribute plunder, loot and wealth among his followers. He will plot the overthrow of fortresses-but only for a time“ (Dan 11:21-24). He is a liar and a thief of thieves. He makes an agreement and promises peace but then breaks his promise and deceives many.

    Jesus spoke about this saying, “Therefore, when you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place’ (whoever reads, let him understand), then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house. And let him who is in the field not to back to get his clothes. “But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath, For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no nor ever shall be“ (Matt 24:15-21)

    The Anti-Christ’s Attempted Destruction of Israel
    Satan and all of those under his rule have always sought the destruction of the Jews. The end times see this brought to fruition. In Daniel 11:40-41 is says, “And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over. He shall enter also into the glorious land [Jerusalem], and many [countries] shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, [even] Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.” This happens after another treaty is broken. At first he promises to help be Jerusalem’s savior but he, as always, is a liar and the truth is not in him (Dan 9:27). He breaks one treaty after another and makes one promise after another, breaking them all. It is obvious that his power comes from the father of lies, the Devil.

    Causes Earth’s Armies to Fight Against Christ
    The Anti-Christ makes an unwise decision, showing that pride comes before the fall.and what a great fall this is. John records that he “saw the beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to wage war against the rider on the horse and his army“ (Rev 19:19). He is so deluded by power and by pride that he actually believes that he can even defeat Jesus Christ but he sorely miscalculates (Rev 19:20-21). Power not only corrupts but it also blinds a person to logic and common sense. What makes this man think that he can destroy God Almighty in the Person of Jesus Christ!?

    That will be the last decision that Anti-Christ makes and it will be a fatal one for he is cast alive into the lake of fire where he can deceive the nations no more.

    All Anti-Christ’s Final Destiny
    All of the little “a” anti-Christ’s and the Anti-Christ are ultimately headed to one place; the lake of fire. If you are denying Jesus Christ is God and that He came in the flesh and lived a perfect, sinless life, that He died for sinners, and was raised again and today sits at the right hand of God, and that He is coming again to judge the world in righteousness, then you are also an anti-Christ (little “a”). There is nothing that is not forgivable except not believing in Jesus Christ as the Son of God (1 John 1:9). If you do not believe in Jesus Christ then you are an anti-Christ and you stand condemned unless you repent (John 3:18).

    There is still time to repent if you are reading this. If not, I hate to tell you the bad news of your and the Anti-Christ’s final destination. It is found in Revelation 20:19-20, “And I saw the beast, the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against Him who sat on the horse and against His army. Then the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who worked signs in his presence, by which he deceived those who received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image. These two were cast alive into the lake of fire burning with brimstone.” Notice that they were cast into the lake of fire alive! Now, the good news means nothing unless we tell you the bad news first. So now the good news (Rom 10:9-13). You don’t have to go there (Acts 4:12). Since Christ has not yet returned, He is still waiting for some to repent. He is not willing that any perish apart from His saving grace (Acts 16:30-31). I beg you to come to Him and place your trust in the Savior, but if not you will face Him as Judge. My prayer is that you trust Him today with your eternal destiny and place your faith in the only one Who can save you. Jesus Christ who died for you.

    Read more: http://www.whatchristianswanttoknow...-christ-according-to-the-bible/#ixzz40ceUeIbr
     
  9. JoeNation
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    This from the political party that has spent the last 8 years accusing Obama of not being a Christian. Karma is a bitch dudes.
     
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    Spoken like a true anti-religious. And just like I said earlier;
     
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    Let He Who Is Without Sin...
    Donald Trump says the pope shouldn't question his Christianity, but Trump questioned Obama's and Cruz's.
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    Who would Jesus deport?

    By Robert SchlesingerFeb. 18, 2016

    As you might have heard, it's on between former reality TV star Donald Trump and Pope Francis, with the latter having the temerity to questions the GOP presidential front-runner's status as a Christian just because he talks and threatens to act in terrifically un-Christian ways.

    "A person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian," Francis reportedly said when asked about The Donald while returning to the Vatican from Mexico.

    Not surprisingly, Trump quickly issued a statement suggesting that the pope was essentially responding to bad information from the Mexican government. (Because where else would the pope have heard of this Trump fellow?)

    [SEE: Editorial Cartoons on Donald Trump]


    But here's the truly rich portion of the Trump statement, emphasis mine:

    For a religious leader to question a person's faith is disgraceful. I am proud to be a Christian and as President I will not allow Christianity to be consistently attacked and weakened, unlike what is happening now, with our current President. No leader, especially a religious leader, should have the right to question another man's religion or faith.
    Trump might want to review his Bible, specifically the part where Jesus admonishes a mob that he who is without sin should cast the first stone.

    After all Trump has a history of questioning other people's faith, starting with President Barack Obama. "Trump has long been one of the most vocal skeptics about Obama's birthplace and faith," CNN's Chris Moody and Kristen Holmes wrote back in September when Trump got into trouble for not correcting a supporter at a rally who asserted that the president is a Muslim. (He's a Christian.) Actually, Trump didn't simply not correct his interlocutor, he responded, "We need this question."

    As far back as 2011, as he was pushing his birther conspiracies (which are intertwined with the question of Obama's birthplace in an effort to cast him as un-American or actually literally not American), Trump was questioning the president's religion. Here he is on Fox News in that year: "He doesn't have a birth certificate. He may have one, but there's something on that, maybe religion, maybe it says he is a Muslim." This is the insinuation cesspool Trump has long played in, so it's no surprise that per a December poll, 60 percent of Trump supporters think Obama is a Muslim.

    [GALLERY: Barack Obama Cartoons]

    But Trump has also made no bones about questioning the religion of his 2016 competitors. Just last week, in fact, he tweeted: "How can Ted Cruz be an Evangelical Christian when he lies so much and is so dishonest?" A consistent Trump refrain has been that Cruz can't be evangelical because he is Cuban-American. "Just remember this – you gotta remember, in all fairness, to the best of my knowledge, not too many evangelicals come out of Cuba, OK?” Trump has said.

    Anyway, now that Donald has seen the light and been born again as a believer in not questioning the faith of others, he's bound to produce a Tweet-storm recanting his previous remarks, right?

    Right?
     
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  12. Daniel Jones
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    Of course, you would side with the pope, he is a fellow lefty just like you. Ha, ha!
     
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    Just wait, karma is on its way to Hillary. Ha, ha!
     
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