SCALIA 1936-2016

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  1. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    Feel free to ignore me.
     
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  2. JoeNation
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    GOP SEN: PARTY 'OBSTRUCTIONIST'

    CARSON: GOP PREZ WOULDN'T WAIT TO NOMINATE
     
  3. David

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    Pure politics on both sides. BO is going to disregard precedent (out of spite) to carry on his scorched earth policy.
     
  4. rlm's cents
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    Something I have heard here sounds appropriate to me;

     
  5. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    What "precedent" would that be?
     
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  6. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Umm, the thingy about a lame duck president not nominating a scotus judge.
     
  7. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    When has your opinion ever been different? It's just plain ignorant. I don't need to hear that. Face it, you follow me like my own personal puppy dog. Your desperation is obvious and pathetic.
     
  8. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    Except no such precedent exists? Besides, it is the Constitution that is precedent here.

    Since 1900, no president has chosen not to nominate a Supreme Court justice because of an impending election, according to an analysis by SCOTUSblog. And the Senate has little history of rejecting those late-term choices.

    That is precedent.
     
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    I don't offer opinions. I offer facts to contradict your opinions that you refuse to support.
     
  10. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Well, the Republicans believe a precedent exists & when the shoe was on the other foot, the dims felt such precedent existed.
     
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    So Schumer lied her?
     
  12. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    Must have been when they confirmed Anthony Kennedy in Reagan's last year in office.
     
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  13. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Wasn't that ONLY after the dims blocked and earlier nomination?
     
  14. CoinOKC
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    Republicans should do the job the people of this country elected them to do, in this case, by blocking the approval of any liberal nominee.

    Now, if Osama would like to nominate someone we can all agree on, then by all means, approve him/her. But, if Osama is going to nominate some left-wing lunatic, then block, baby, block.
     
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  15. JoeNation
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    Behold a real leader.

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  16. CoinOKC
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    Ummmm.. wait a minute. You said "Behold a real leader" and then you posted a pic of Osama with some nonsensical utterings. Please post a pic of a real leader. We are waiting...

    In the meantime, please reference your source for that quote. I'd like to read it. Thanks.
     
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    How about a real hypocrite?
    [Obama joined a filibuster when he was a U.S. senator to delay the confirmation of Judge Samuel Alito, one of President Bush’s nominees to the Supreme Court.

    "I will be supporting the filibuster because I think Judge Alito, in fact, is somebody who is contrary to core American values, not just liberal values," Obama said in January 2006.


    Obama has no idea what American values are. His only values are leftist values. Here's what he said about Justice Alito.


    “While I certainly believe that Judge Samuel Alito has the training and the qualifications necessary to serve as a Supreme Court Justice,after a careful review of his record, I simply cannot vote for his nomination."


    Obama claimed that, "Judge Alito simply does not inspire confidence that he will serve as an independent voice on the U.S. Supreme Court."]

    and

    [Let's start with Justice Roberts.


    Obama admitted that Roberts was eminently qualified. He praised him highly.


    "There is absolutely no doubt in my mind Judge Roberts is qualified to sit on the highest court in the land. Moreover, he seems to have the comportment and the temperament that makes for a good judge. He is humble, he is personally decent, and he appears to be respectful of different points of view. It is absolutely clear to me that Judge Roberts truly loves the law. He couldn't have achieved his excellent record as an advocate before the Supreme Court without that passion for the law..."


    But, no he wasn't going to vote for him anyway.


    "I ultimately have to give more weight to his deeds and the overarching political philosophy that he appears to have shared with those in power than to the assuring words that he provided me in our meeting. The bottom line is this: I will be voting against John Roberts' nomination."]

    https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/...justice-alito-voted-against-daniel-greenfield
     
  18. CoinOKC
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    Not only is Obama an obstructionist, but let's not forget about other Democrat obstructionists, too:

    10 Times Democrats Vowed To Block Republican Court Nominees

    February 16, 2016

    Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-K.Y.) has vowed to block any of lame-duck President Obama’s Supreme Court nominations.

    The media have taken to acting as if this move is unprecedented, and that a senator has never publicly stated he would intentionally block a presidential nomination. Not true. Not only have there been several lengthy Supreme Court vacancies, but there are plenty of past instanceswhen senators refused to confirm a president’s nominations.

    Here are 10 other times Democrats vowed to block Republican court nominees.

    1. Sen Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) said in 2007 that President George W. Bush shouldn’t get to pick any more Supreme Court justices because Schumer was afraid the bench leaned too far Right. Schumer made this remark a whole 19 months before the next president was inaugurated.

    “We should not confirm any Bush nominee to the Supreme Court, except in extraordinary circumstances,” Schumer said in a speech to the liberal American Constitution Society. “They must prove by actions, not words, that they are in the mainstream rather than we have to prove that they are not.”

    2. His remarks in 2007 weren’t the only time Schumer vowed to stop a Republican nominee. In 2004, he said he would do everything in his power to stop Bush from elevating Charles Pickering to a federal appeals court in 2004.

    “I’m prepared to do everything I can to stop the nomination of Justice Pickering,” Schumer said. “We can do a lot better.”

    3. Schumer again promised to make the nomination process difficult for President Bush amid a confirmation battle over Carolyn Kuhl, who was nominated as a judge to the Ninth Circuit Court.

    In 2004, his office released a statement saying Senate Democrats planned to “hold nominations until the White House commits to stop abusing the advise and consent process.”

    The statement was part of Democratic coalition to stop Bush from using his recess appointing powers. The president eventually conceded and promised he would stop appointing judges while Congress was on vacation in exchange for them stopping filibustering.

    3. Then-Senator Barack Obama said in 2006 that he supported the Democratic-led filibuster to stop Justice Samuel Alito from making it to the Supreme Court.

    There are some who believe that the president, having won the election, should have complete authority to appoint his nominee…that once you get beyond intellect and personal character, there should be no further question as to whether the judge should be confirmed. I disagree with this view.

    4. Obama wasn’t the only Democratic senator to oppose Alito’s nomination. The late Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-Mass.) led an opposition coalition, which attempted to filibuster to block the confirmation process. Kennedy was joined by Sen. Patrick J. Leahy (D-Vt.), Sen. Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.), Sen. Ken Salazar (D-Colo.), and Sen. Max Baucus (D-Mont.), who publicly stated they opposed Alito’s confirmation.

    “The record demonstrates that we cannot count on Judge Alito to blow the whistle when the president is out of bounds,” Kennedy said.

    5. In 1960, the Democratic-controlled Senate passed a resolution to blockPresident Eisenhower from being able to make any more recess appointments to the Supreme Court. The resolution stated:

    Expressing the sense of the Senate that the president should not make recess appointments to the Supreme Court, except to prevent or end a breakdown in the administration of the Court’s business.

    6. Kennedy led a gang of eight senators in 2003 to block Bush nominee Miguel Estrada from rising to the Court of Appeals.

    “Instead of looking for candidates who are extreme ideologues, the president should work with the Senate in nominating individuals who have the highest qualifications,” Kennedy said, while taking a victory lap after the Bush administration withdrew Estrada’s nomination.

    7. The AFL-CIO union vowed to block then-President Ronald Reagan’s nominee Robert Bork by soiling his public reputation so badly that any Democratic senator who voted in favor of confirming him would have to explain it to his constituents. Kennedy continued this line of rhetoric in a well-known floor speech. He infamously said:

    Robert Bork’s America is a land in which women would be forced into back-alley abortions, blacks would sit at segregated lunch counters, rogue police could break down citizens’ doors in midnight raids, schoolchildren could not be taught about evolution, writers and artists could be censored at the whim of the Government.

    8. Joe Biden wrote the playbook for how to “bork” a Supreme Court nominee, a descriptive verb that now means to publicly pillory a nominee’s reputation to make it politically difficult for senators to vote for them. It’s named, of course, after what Democrats did to Robert Bork.

    Then-Senator Biden was the chair of the judiciary committee, and he put together what’s now been deemed a “Biden report,” a document detailing Bork’s judicial history and personal background. The judiciary committee voted against Bork’s confirmation by a vote of 9-5.

    9. Democratic groups vowed to “bork” Justice Clarence Thomas, George H.W. Bush’s nominee to the Supreme Court. They failed, but the personal attacks on Thomas were brutal.

    “We’re going to bork him,” said National Organization for Women’s Flo Kennedy. “We need to kill him politically.”

    10. In 2008, Democrats banded together to filibuster Bush’s decision to nominate Priscilla Owen to a federal circuit court.

    Eleanor Smeal, president of the Feminist Majority Foundation, urged Senate Democrats to “stand up and fight as they have been doing with Miguel Estrada.”

    “At this time of global turmoil, we don’t need extremists in the courts willing to make a Dred Scott decision in the area of women’s fundamental rights,” she said.

    http://thefederalist.com/2016/02/16/10-times-democrats-vowed-to-block-republican-nominees/
     
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    duplicate
     
  20. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    All this Republican rancor over replacing Scalia hasn't given anyone a chance to honor the guy for his service to this country. I may not agree with his positions but he was a nice, intelligent man that deserves our respect. He certainly had some colorful opinions and interesting views but even he couldn't have seen the nakedly partisan shit-storm that would develop moments after his death. Never waste a good tragedy GOP.
     

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