Malaysia Airlines Plane Crash: Flight Shot Down Over Ukraine

Again, not what I said but go ahead and run with it. In other words....Who cares.

 

Please point out where I misquoted you.

 

Is it really necessary considering what you just posted?

 

It's not necessary to point out where I quoted you, but I'd like you to point out where I misquoted you. I'm challenging you with an impossible task, btw.

 

You're challenging ME? Ooooooh!

JoeNation said: ↑
The smartest thing we can do is to let the Ukrainian people get pissed off enough to start terrorizing Russia the way the Chechens terrorize the Russians.

http://www.partisanlines.com/threads/russia-invades-ukraine-wheres-obama.48611/#post-236801

Do you see the difference in the two statements? My statement pretty much says that the Ukrainians should fight for their own freedom which we may or may not have an interest in but Europe definitely does have more of an interest than we do. Your "quote" is an absolute statement which I didn't make. You can infer whatever you want and I'm sure that you will but saying I said something I didn't is a pretty pathetic way to try and win and argument. Stop being pathetic.

 

Didn't take them long did it?

McCain blames 'cowardly' Obama administration for allowing plane attack
by Jed Lewison


Guess who Sen. John McCain blames for the shooting down of Malaysia Airlines flight 17? Yup, President Obama:
Mr. McCain said that Mr. Obama is running a “cowardly administration that failed to give the Ukrainians weapons with which to defend themselves.”McCain's comments came during an appearance on Fox's Hannity show. He said that if Obama had simply armed the Ukrainians, then "these separatists may not even have occupied and had access to these weapons, which apparently, they got at an airfield."
So according to expert McCain, if Obama had simply weaponized Ukraine, then these separatists never would have been able to get the weapon system they used to bring down the airplane. But hold on a moment ... how does McCain know that the missiles were obtained at an airfield, and that they weren't provided to the separatists by Russian military—or that Russian military personnel may have actually been operating the weapons?

Well, based on this statement, also by McCain, and delivered during the same interview, it's pretty clear he has no idea, because just after saying that the people who shot down the plane did so with weapons they found at an airfield, he said that the separatists weren't actually separatists but were actually in fact Russian special operation forces:

To me, it's compelling evidence that this was done by the so-called separatists, which are, by the way, special operations, special forces of Russians, that are Russian-trained Russian military that call themselves separatists.Literally within seconds, McCain's story went from accusing Obama of letting a Ukrainian missile system fall into the wrong hands to accusing Russia of maintaining a special operation force that was responsible for shooting down the plane. Who knows, both of those scenarios seem plausible, but not at the same time ... unless, of course, your priority is attacking President Obama, which obviously is bitter McCain's real agenda.​

 

McCain? Pullleeeze!! He'll probably change his mind..

 

I can't wait to see your movie Lucy. How did the get Scarlett Johansson to play you?

 

That's what I thought. Thank you.

 

845. Another way to weaken the Euro (7/21/2014)

The energy supply of Europe is heavily dependent on Russia. About one third to 40% of its natural gas and oil are imported from Russia. One important gas pipe is inside Ukraine. If there is a turmoil in Ukraine, the gas supply to Europe will be affected. The economy of Europe would be weakened, so be the Euro. That’s why we saw an upheaval in Ukraine.

Here EU used to be a follower of the US. I think the Europeans have sensed the coming danger the US will bring to them. German is a major power of EU. Recently, German has twice revealed two US spy cases and eventually expelled a CIA intelligence official. That’s unusual.

 

846. The divert flight path (7/28/2014)
Evidence shows that MH17 was arranged from its original flight path over to a war zone where it was shot down.

Puppet Ukraine censored the air traffic control recordings.

The case is similar to the shooting down case of “KAL 007” 30 years ago. I talked about it at” 834. Small countries became sacrifice in US plots (5/23/2014)”
In 1983, a South Korea passenger airplane KAL 007 was shot down in Russia.
A few years ago, after former Soviet Union had collapsed, I came across with an analysis of that incident. The article said the Korean pilots couldn’t make such a big mistake to diverge the normal flight path. It alleged it was a plot that Pentagon used it to test air defense of Soviet Union. It was cold war time. I believe so. The original path was mostly over the ocean. The deviation track went over Kamchatka Peninsula. That is a big land. Pilots couldn’t miss it.

 

848. The crashes of MH17 and MH370 serve for one purpose (8/8/2014)

US has locked two strategy enemies – Russia and China. Both are the threats to the dollar.
The tactic to deal with these two enemies is to weaken them by war.

China has conflicts with its neighbor countries. It has territory problem with Japan in East China Sea and with Vietnam and Philippine in South China Sea. China blames US standing at the side of these three countries. Malaysia has territory problem with China in South China Sea too but it keeps friendship with China. To push Malaysia to join the anti-China front in Asia, MH370 case was created. The mysterious disappearance of the passengers would create a long lasting demanding for the victims from China side because most victims were Chinese citizens. (That is why MH370 case was produced as a mysterious disappearance not an evident crash) Anyhow, China and Malaysia might have realized the plot and haven’t made it a crisis.

The Ukraine crisis started in February when a civil turmoil happened which caused the stepping down of pro-Russia President Yanukovych. The result is there is an upheaval in East Ukraine. Since Russia and Europe both have interest in Ukraine, a war between the two is easy to be ignited. The shooting down of MH17 was created as an ignition. MH17 was well selected – like MH370 – for its passengers. Most of victims in MH17 were Dutch. Holland is a major country of EU and NATO. If Holland is infuriated, the possibility of a covert war between EU and Russia in Ukraine is greatly increased.

I think US is the mastermind of the incidents of MH17 and MH370. The purpose is to push Russia and China into wars with their neighbor countries to weaken them.

See my analysis on MH370: from #822 to #835.
See my analysis on MH17: from #844 to #847.

 

850. Plot to frame Russia in shooting down of MH17 failed (8/19/2014)
There is a silence in Western media about the crash of MH17, compare to the noise they made at original hours when MH17 was shot down when the evidence shows there were 30mm bullet holes on fuselage of MH17. The bullet couldn’t reach altitude of 32,000 feet from ground that’s common sense.

Be noticed it’s from a Germany pilot. German is one who suffered from Ukraine conflict.
Analysis from Malaysia newspaper.

 

851. Why Malaysia airlines was selected as target (8/23/2014)

In #848, I said Malaysia was targeted because it keeps a friendship with China while China is a covert enemy of the US. In #845, I talked about German had sensed that E.U. was provoked by the US for a covert war with Russia. German is unwilling to follow the US instruction. It expelled the CIA Chief from the German as a protest.

Then a Chinese forum offered an information how Malaysia and German were hurt by heavy insurance loss in the two incidents. The insurance company of Malaysia Airline is a Germany.

1. MH370

2.. MH17

The comment said, “German was shot even it was laying on the ground”.

 

Dutch Intellectuals Apologize to Putin for Lies on MH17, Syria, Ukraine...
Wednesday, 27 August 2014
A letter sent by a prominent Dutch Professor to Russian president Vladimir Putin has attracted much media attention in Europe. The letter was written by Professor Cees Hamelink and signed by dozens of Dutch intellectuals and professors. Below is the letter in its entirety.
https://www.nieuws.nl/media/bspnmemwhqvx4tfw11gfkums2-w620-h352-q90-f-bececed/Professor_Cees_Hamelink_UvA_hq_Novum.jpg
Dear Mr. President Putin,

Please accept our apologies on behalf of a great many people here in the Netherlands for our Government and our Media. The facts concerning MH17 are twisted to defame you and your country.

We are powerless onlookers, as we witness how the Western Nations, led by the United States, accuse Russia of crimes they commit themselves more than anybody else. We reject the double standards that are used for Russia and the West. In our societies, sufficient evidence is required for a conviction. The way you and your Nation are convicted for 'crimes' without evidence, is ruthless and despicable.
http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/25981/53/