God, The GOP, and WTF in Oklahoma!

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  1. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    And you wonder why the Right is described as extreme? They are advocating the same laws as tribal societies in the Middle East. Stoning people to death for being different. Theocracies are brutal and dictatorial. We only find them tolerated in one political party. The GOP should be ashamed of itself. Unfortunately, they never are.

    Tea Party Candidate Says It's OK To Stone Gays To Death

    The Huffington Post | By Ed Mazza



    Scott Esk, a Republican Tea Party candidate in Oklahoma, got into a debate on Facebook last summer in which he advocated killing homosexuals.
    I think we would be totally in the right to do it,” Esk wrote in comments uncovered by Oklahoma journalist Rob Morris. “That goes against some parts of libertarianism, I realize, and I’m largely libertarian, but ignoring as a nation things that are worthy of death is very remiss.”
    When pressed, Esk added: "I never said I would author legislation to put homosexuals to death, but I didn’t have a problem with it."
    Esk is running for the state's House of Representatives. The primary is scheduled for June 24.
    When contacted by Morris, who runs the news outlet Moore Daily, Esk didn't deny making the comments or back down from the rhetoric.
    "That was done in the Old Testament under a law that came directly from God and in that time there it was totally just. It came directly from God," Esk said, adding: "I have no plans to reinstitute that in Oklahoma law. I do have some very huge moral misgivings about those kinds of sins."
    The Raw Story notes that in other Facebook posts, Esk has said that laws punishing gays should be instituted locally so people "can decide for themselves whether they want to live in a particular community based in part on how things like this are dealt with.”
    The comments have quickly gone viral, drawing attention to other parts of his platform... and those views aren't any less extreme.
    Esk wants to "punish abortionists severely for their committing of murder" and punish federal bureaucrats who try to enact the provisions of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.
    In addition, he's against all forms of gun licenses, wants to cut education funding "which I don’t consider a proper function of government" and believes "the EPA, FDA, OSHA, etc." "have no legitimate reason for existing, since they’re unConstitutional."
    Esk wants to make divorce more difficult as well. He's calling for jury trials for divorce cases and an end to no-fault proceedings.
    "I also don’t buy into the notion that it’s unfair to make somebody stay in a marriage he’s unhappy with," Esk wrote.
    Esk was married for 15 years until "frivolous divorce raised its ugly head in the Esk home," he notes on his campaign website. (You can see him speak more about divorce in the video below.)
    Esk's Facebook page contains other stunners, including a December 2013 post written shortly after Nelson Mandela's death in which he called the former South African president a "communist thug" and a "low-life."
    And in November 2013, he wrote of calling 911 to report "a large group of Mexicans" gathered at an Oklahoma City mall geared toward Latino shoppers because he "suspected that many of them were guilty of being here illegally."
    His long rant notes that police didn't respond to his emergency call.
    Esk was a computer programmer in the state's Department of Public Safety, but has "since gravitated toward courier work." He also owns a window-washing business.
    "I look forward to applying Biblical principles to Oklahoma law," Esk writes on his website.
     
  2. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    But you are the one who likes violence!

    Read more: http://www.partisanlines.com/threads/the-right-wings-problem-with-racism.4166/page-2#ixzz2H4yXCMrr
     
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  3. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    And you seem to be just fine with killing gays. Pathetic!
     
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    I never said jack squat about your proposition. Just demonstrated how much you like violence against anyone who dares disagree with your mantra. Oh, and a nice demonstration of how the left uses fear tactics to drive their points home.
     
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  5. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    That's because your pointlessly repetitive nonsense never has anything to do with the topic. Nobody cares what you have to say.
     
  6. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    What is wrong? Your words bother you?

    BTW, you seem to care enough to threaten to send your brother-in-law to "kick my ......." Would that be because you don't like people showing you the truth?
     
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  7. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    You seem to need attention today. I'm not going to give it to you. Move along.
     
  8. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Ah! Getting more attention (or the wrong attention) than you can stand? Here is some more of your words;

     
  9. CoinOKC
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    CoinOKC T R U M P

    In his mind, violence is acceptable as long as it is perpetrated against those who disagree with his beliefs. He has proved that time and again.
     
  10. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    It seems that you two have no ability to discuss the topic so you attack the person posting it. That seems pretty aggressive.
     
  11. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    I have not attacked you one bit. All I have done is to repost your posts. Maybe if you don't like your own words, you should not have posted them in the first place.
     
  12. CoinOKC
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    CoinOKC T R U M P

    It's not a "don't shoot the messenger" analogy in this case. The guy in the OP advocated violence in principle whereas you advocated violence outright. You're certainly no better than he is, in fact, you're worse.
     
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  13. Takiji

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    It's always refreshing to read about an honest Bible-believing Christian. But even he wavers a little. Where does it say in the Bible that whether or not to kill us can be decided by a vote of the local populace? There can be no equivocating when it comes to carrying out the commandments of the living God.
     
  14. CoinOKC
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    The guy is a moron if he wants to kill any human being whether gay or straight... born or unborn. "Thou Shalt Not Kill", etc., etc.
     
  15. c jay
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    c jay Well-Known Member

    I wonder if he'd have a problem putting down one of his kids. It's a parents right according to Exodus. Someone should ask him that.
     
  16. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    It's this odd sort of wanting it both ways that mystifies me about these Right wingers. This guy clearly calls himself a Tea Party candidate and is tolerated as such by the Tea party crowd. They have a choice to let him wear that moniker or boot him out. They have made their choice and we then get to make the choice to condemn them for the people they have chosen to ally themselves with. I'm all for big tents but including the asylum crowd is always going to workout badly.
     
  17. Takiji

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    Seems like they often set things like this up as a free speech issue. They argue that they don't agree with what the guy is saying. Not at all. But he does have every right to say it. As if any sort of criticism or negative reaction to the statement in question would somehow be the equivalent of censorship.
     
  18. Takiji

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    dupe
     
  19. Takiji

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    God said...

    If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

    And if a man lie with his daughter in law, both of them shall surely be put to death: they have wrought confusion; their blood shall be upon them.

    And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death.

    Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.

    And he that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death.

    Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

    There are lots more, as I'm sure you know. God is pretty free with his use of the death penalty. He kind of reminds me of the Red Queen.

    I've been told that the "kill" in "thou shalt not kill" is more properly translated as "murder". The distinction makes sense because it allows us to justify killing in any number of circumstances. We kill in war, we allow people to stand their ground, cops can kill you if you scare them, and Christians are obliged to kill those who are guilty of breaking God's law. When you're killing for the Lord it's not murder.
     
  20. CoinOKC
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    CoinOKC T R U M P

    In your earlier post, you referenced a commandment. Therefore, I quoted a commandment. You're going to find all sorts of passages in the Bible, but there are only ten commandments.

    So, "you've been told" something? Better yet, read it for yourself and interpret it yourself.
     

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