Boy! Reporting these stories has just gotten repetitive. 2 good guys with guns and training die as a result. Posted by Chauncey DeVega at 1:57 am June 9, 2014 The Las Vegas White Supremacist Mass Shooters Are Really Liberals! How Many Ways Will the Right-Wing Media Spin This Tragedy? What shall we do with the white people... again? I ask that question when white men commit mass shootings. I ask that question when Right-wing domestic terrorists kill innocent people. It is unfortunate, that in the aftermath of Sunday morning's murder spree by two white supremacists in Las Vegas, I am forced, once more, to ask said question. Mass shootings by white men, as well as Right-wing domestic terrorism, have become events akin to those in the classic comedy Groundhog Day. Unfortunately, there is nothing humorous of funny about how white Right-wing domestic terrorists have shot up Jewish community centers, planted bombs, seen a spike in their numbers since the election of Barack Obama, are coddled and encouraged by the Fox News echo chamber and the Republican Party, and now--with Tea Party regalia, Nazi bonafides, yelling "this is a revolution!"--they kill three people during a brazen daylight attack on Sunday in Las Vegas, Nevada. The Las Vegas shooters were so contemptible that even the racist welfare king Cliven Bundy, and his band of anti-Obama brigands, apparently felt that they were too "radical" for their low tastes. The Right-wing echo chamber helped to spawn the mass shooters named "Jared" and "Amanda". Birtherism, an embrace of the neo-confederacy, a worshipful attitude towards the Confederate flag (i.e. "the American Swastika") and the CSA, along with an open embrace of anti-black affect and white racial resentment in a concerted effort to delegitimate the United States' first black president, are the "polite" face of American white supremacy in the first decades of the 21st century. The Republican Party is a white identity organization. Complementing this claim, social scientists have highlighted how the Tea Party, a herrenvolk organization motivated by white racism under the guise of "taking our country back"--which begs the question "from who?"--creates a sense of white racialized self-interest among its members. Moreover, Tea Party organizations are a way for "old school" white supremacists to recruit new members from the angry white men (and women) who constitute the more extreme elements in the Republican Party. The Las Vegas murder spree is a clear act of domestic terrorism by members of the White Right. Of course, the Right-wing media and its acolytes will find a way to spin and distort the facts. "Jared" and "Amanda" placed the Gadsden flag, what is now a Tea Party icon, on the body of one of their victims; the shooters yelled "this is a revolution!" while committing murder, a seditious slogan that echoes within the Right-wing echo chamber; Nazi paraphernalia was found in their home; and the Las Vegas shooters sought out a natural alliance with Cliven Bundy and his thugs. The Right-wing media machine will re-frame the Las Vegas shooting spree in keeping with the principles outlined by Joseph Goebbels and his genius insights about how to manipulate the mass public. The Fox News echo chamber will chose to either: 1) ignore the events in Las Vegas; 2) highlight those tragic events as an example for why concealed carry gun laws should be the rule of the land; 3) offer the default answer: this is all somehow Barack Obama's fault; 4) advance a lazy, intellectually bankrupt, and morally empty deflection: black people in Chicago shoot each other all the time!; 5) argue that these people are "sick" and "crazy", so why are we even talking about their politics?; 6) lie and commit an intellectually rapacious and craven assault on the historical record by suggesting that white supremacist Nazis are in fact really "liberals". http://www.alternet.org/speakeasy/c...ss-shooters-are-really-liberals-how-many-ways
Scratch that "2 good guys with guns" comment. Apparently the guy they shot at Walmart was also carrying a weapon. Another NRA talking point bites the dust.
Only YOU could be enough of a troll to see this as a "celebratory" thread. The guns your ilk love so much are the issue here and anyone with a brain could figure that out. I guess it's about that point that you start defending these kooks since you've already intentionally misrepresented the topic. How typical. To quote a much revered Republican.... "Samuel Wurzelbacher, better known as Joe the Plumber, insisted the deaths of innocent people "don't trump" his constitutional rights...."
While there are some valid points sprinkled in DeVega's screed, overall I think he's full of crap and indulging in hysterical polemics. Mass shootings certainly aren't the exclusive domain of "white" Americans. In fact a Hispanic man apparently shot his family and himself in Florida on the same day as those two nuts did their thing in Las Vegas. DeVega is spreading noxious nonsense and straight out lies. He certainly isn't doing anything to improve the situation--if anything the opposite is the case. Two of the more egregious quotes: ^^ Utter bullshit ^^ Unadulterated racism
How many times would you estimate that you've had to say that exact statement? You do know that it becomes a caricature after it gets used this often? Right? Now we'll have to see if our new moderator is up to the task of banning trolls like you. Good luck GX!
Not so fast Recus. Let's imagine for a moment that 2 individuals did exactly the same thing but instead of being a pair of Right wing white trash types they were middle eastern Muslims, or blacks, or gays, .... now imagine the uproar from the Right. You saw what they did to Bergdahl and you think that they would be any less hypocritical. These Right wingers are plain and simply terrorists and they have the common thread of being white supremacists. Mass shootings are almost exclusively whites. White kids, white adults, white elderly people. Prove me wrong.
I don't dispute that if any of the above had been the case, it'd be trumpeted by the right wing media in an attempt to gain some political traction. I don't think that excuses the inflammatory hogwash served up in DeVega's rant. It appears that these two were right-wing loons, but that doesn't mean that all right-wingers are loons, let alone terrorists. Not even all white supremacists are terrorists. There's a malignant tendency to use incidents like this one to portray "the other side" as unhinged and violent. Both sides do it, and neither really gains anything by it. In fact, I think it definitely discredits the person who takes that tack. I don't think I've ever read anything by DeVega before, but in the future I will never use him as a source for anything, except maybe to illustrate how the left can be just as blatantly full of crap as the right. No, that's simply not true. Virginia Tech, 2007: Seung-Hui Cho killed 32 people Fort Hood, 2009: Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan killed 13 people Binghamton, New York, 2009: Jiverly Wong killed 13 people Manchester, Connecticut, 2010: Omar Thornton killed 8 people These are just some of the more prominent examples. It's possible that a racist might use the above to try to make a case that per capita, Asian Americans are more likely than "whites" to perpetrate this sort of crime. That's really irrelevant, though. Some of the things that DeVega wrote are clearly racist. I'll use your technique: Something like ". . . what shall we do with the black people?" would elicit a firestorm of outrage, and rightly so.
View attachment 2548 I dunno Recus, they look white to me but then again so did the Columbine shooters, the Sandy Hook shooter, every other shooter I can think of. There may have been a non-white shooter or two but they pale in comparison to the white supremacists.