The Affordable Care Act....Check & Mate

Be as insulting as you want to be (I simply consider the source & the motivation behind the behavior) but doesn't it stand to reason that if someone is offered something for which they are in desperate need, and you offer to pay for most of it, the sign-up rate should far exceed a measily 10-15%?

 

When it comes to considering the source and the motivation... I'm way ahead of you.

For someone who has had nothing but positive benefits as a result of the ACA, you sure whine a lot about the law. Did you just have it too good prior to the ACA and were looking to make your life worse in some way?

How have YOU been directly adversely affected? Here is where you make up a story. Knock yourself out.

 

Obamacare has led to health coverage for millions more people

At least 9.5 million previously uninsured people have gotten health insurance since Obamacare started, surveys and reports show.


By Noam N. Levey March 30, 2014, 9:14 p.m.

WASHINGTON — President Obama's healthcare law, despite a rocky rollout and determined opposition from critics, already has spurred the largest expansion in health coverage in America in half a century, national surveys and enrollment data show.
As the law's initial enrollment period closes, at least 9.5 million previously uninsured people have gained coverage. Some have done so through marketplaces created by the law, some through other private insurance and others through Medicaid, which has expanded under the law in about half the states.

The tally draws from a review of state and federal enrollment reports, surveys and interviews with insurance executives and government officials nationwide. The Affordable Care Act still faces major challenges, particularly the risk of premium hikes next year that could drive away newly insured customers. But the increased coverage so far amounts to substantial progress toward one of the law's principal goals and is the most significant expansion since the creation of Medicare and Medicaid in 1965.
The millions of newly insured also create a politically important constituency that may complicate any future Republican repeal efforts.
Precise figures on national health coverage will not be available for months. But available data indicate:
• At least 6 million people have signed up for health coverage on the new marketplaces, about one-third of whom were previously uninsured.
• A February survey by consulting firm McKinsey & Co. found 27% of new enrollees were previously uninsured, but newer survey data from the nonprofit Rand Corp. and reports from marketplace officials in several states suggest that share increased in March.
• At least 4.5 million previously uninsured adults have signed up for state Medicaid programs, according to Rand's unpublished survey data, which were shared with The Times. That tracks with estimates from Avalere Health, a consulting firm that is closely following the law's implementation.
• An additional 3 million young adults have gained coverage in recent years through a provision of the law that enables dependent children to remain on their parents' health plans until they turn 26, according to national health insurance surveys from the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
• About 9 million people have bought health plans directly from insurers, instead of using the marketplaces, Rand found. The vast majority of these people were previously insured.
• Fewer than a million people who had health plans in 2013 are now uninsured because their plans were canceled for not meeting new standards set by the law, the Rand survey indicates.
Republican critics of the law have suggested that the cancellations last fall have led to a net reduction in coverage.
That is not supported by survey data or insurance companies, many of which report they have retained the vast majority of their 2013 customers by renewing old policies, which is permitted in about half the states, or by moving customers to new plans.
"We are talking about a very small fraction of the country" who lost coverage, said Katherine Carman, a Rand economist who is overseeing the survey.
Rand has been polling 3,300 Americans monthly about their insurance choices since last fall. Researchers found that the share of adults ages 18 to 64 without health insurance has declined from 20.9% last fall to 16.6% as of March 22.
The decrease parallels a similar drop recorded by Gallup, which found in its national polling that the uninsured rate among adults had declined from 18% in the final quarter of last year to 15.9% through the first two months of 2014. Gallup's overall uninsured rate is lower than Rand's because it includes seniors on Medicare.
Gallup Editor in Chief Frank Newport said that March polling, which has not been released yet, indicates the uninsured rate has declined further.
"While it is important to be cautious, the logical conclusion is that the law is having an effect," he said.
Although estimates vary, about 45 million to 48 million people are believed to have been uninsured before the marketplaces opened last year.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-obamacare-uninsured-national-20140331,0,5472960.story#ixzz2xZOIRxpA

 

This explains your ignorance perfectly... Fox News stupid again.

Fox News Might Want To Revise Its Laughably Bad Obamacare Graphic

The Huffington Post | by Katherine Fung
Posted: 03/31/2014 1:01 pm EDT



A Fox News graphic about Obamacare enrollment levels looked juuuuuust a bit off on Monday.
It showed a bar chart comparing the number of Obamacare enrollments as of March 27 — 6 million — to the original projection of 7 million by March 31 from the Congressional Budget Office. There was a slight problem with the way the network portrayed things, though, as Media Matters noted.
Think you can spot it?

If you couldn't spot it, 7 is just a bit more than 6, not 1000 times more (or whatever the chart had, we're bad at math)!
The graphic aired during Monday's "America's Newsroom" during a discussion of how Obamacare will affect Democrats running for election this year. While the CBO had initially predicted last May that 7 million people would be enrolled in the new health care exchanges by March 31, it later decreased that projection to 6 million following the botched rollout of Obamacare last fall.
People quickly went about correcting Fox News's chart for them:

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I'm just a dumb old famer - I just don't understand the math.

I admit I am just a dumb old farmer - but I just don't understand the math.

In the quote above you state "7 million new sign-ups is with-in reach"

Just a few post prior you state

Opinions? You got that right. Yours seem to be just a little off.

Fact:

Obamacare Has Led To Coverage For 9.5 Million!

Read more: http://www.partisanlines.com/threads/the-affordable-care-act-check-mate.50945/page-2#ixzz2xZOklUPI​

And then everything I read is the goal of 6 million sign-ups was achieved this past weekend. Of course with 1 day left the Obamacare site crashed for over 4 hours this morning.

 

Like so many other, I pay a much higher insurance premium for coverage that isn't as good.

 

Here's a telling fact!

The BO admin claimed anywhere from 17-50 million uninsured, yet only 2 million uninsured signed up on the exchanges?

 

Don't hold it against him too much, moron joe is incapable of thinking for himself so he's subject to the information being fed to him by the far left.

 

First of all, some of the smartest people I have ever met were farmers. So you don't get to play the "dumb old farmer" card. LOL!

The 6 to 7 million figure is new sign ups through the websites both federal and state. The 9.5 million figure is people that have gained health care coverage through all of the ACA options including Medicaid.

As far as the crash goes, the reason they extended the deadline for people who began to sign up but were unable to finish before the deadline was because they anticipated that there would be a rush at the end as the deadline approached. People are people after all. Just like there was for Romneycare in Massachusetts. Just like there was for Medicare Part D when Bush extended the deadline. No mystery here.

 

You obviously aren't, but the admin thinks most folks are. Plus they count on enough of the moron joe & iqless-types who would never question the misinformation that comes from the left

 

Fox called. They want their idiot audience to tune in for more spoon fed lies. I told them that I'd let you know.

 

And your opinion of Fox's misinformation is what? Prime example there. Feel free to dispute it.

 

Well, since I'm not a FOX viewer, I wouldn't have an opinion. You'll have to ask someone else.
Sorry if that goes against the lies your side feeds you.

 

You don't have to view Fox. I posted it for you. Now what?

 

Not it is not. It is only the number of people who have set up an account. The number whjo have paid has not been released. The number who previously had insurance and were dropped because of Obamacare has not been released. In fact the number who have completed the sign up has not been released. In other words, the "6 to 7 million figure" is totally meaningless.

 

Chuck Todd, on NBC, may have slipped up yesterday but he said only 60% of the enrollees have even been billed for their premiums. I'm not sure where he came up with those figures though.

 

Morons. You lost the first several battles so you move on to the next idiotic talking point. Again, you dead enders are unimportant and haven't been able to name one adverse effect from the new law you have suffered. But I can name several benefits you have gained. Your endless whining is pretty funny.

 

Ha. You sound like Harry Reid now.
So every story of people having their health plans eliminated (mine was), their premiums raised (mine was), hours cut at work, jobs eliminated entirely and losing their preferred doctor are all just lies? Pull your head out of,,,err,,,the sand and pay attention. If the idea of this plan was to help more than it hurt I think they've struck out. Now if the idea was to roll out a flop in order to justify a total gov't takeover of our healthcare they just may be getting that one accomplished.

 

And again, we present the facts and you shoot the messenger. I have repeatedly ask how many have PAID for their Obamacare. You have not yet answered. Gee! Could there be a valid reason why you have not answered?

 

I am a small business owner from Ohio and my employyes lost their coverage because of aca requirements. We participated in a group plan through the chamber of commerce. The coverage didnt provide coverage stipluated by aca so it was cancelled plain and simple. There were no comparable plans avaialble to replace it so me and my employees were left out to dry same as the other small businesses that got their insurance same as we did. I approached the aca exchange and was told them not having coverage didnt matter anyway because my company didnt have enough employees to fall under guidleines. I told them my concern wasnt to be off the hook but to to see my employyes covered at a price they could afford so the exchange referred me to a third party calledf healthsherpa who wasnt able to help either. My employees were even told to understate their income so they would qualify for reduced premiums. Being honest about our incomes the plans were still too high. We were all able to cut corners and settle on plans but they arent as good as we were used to and we all pay more each month.