Obamacare is ruining patient care in hospitals...

Ask anyone who works in a hospital!!

Re-imbursements to the hospitals have been cut back so much because of Obamacare that hospitals are discharging patients way earlier than they should & they're being forced to cut corners where patient care is involved.
Not only has Obamacare made our insurance preiums explode now the care we get is being hurt!

 

Typical knee-jerk FOX supplied narrative with no proof. Nothing to see here.

 

And then you have to ask yourself why the Right-wing has to lie to try and end Obamacare?

Koch Group Abandons Obamacare 'Horror' Stories After Fact-Check Backlash



Dylan Scott – March 17, 2014, 10:55 AM EDT6467

Have we heard the last Obamacare "horror" story? If new ads from the Koch Brothers-backed group are any indication, we might have.
Americans for Prosperity, the well-funded conservative group that has been attacking Democrats in battleground states over the health care reform law, put out TV ads Monday against Sens. Mary Landrieu (D-LA) and Mark Udall (D-CO).
But what's notable about the ads is what they aren't: A personalized story of someone who's been negatively affected by Obamacare, the kind of verifiable set of facts that can be checked -- and rebutted, as happened with a recent AFP ad that led to significant backlash from the fact-checking community.
"People don't like political ads. I don't like them either," a woman tells the camera to start AFP's new ads, announced Monday by the group. "But health care isn't about politics. It's about people."
She then criticizes the law for canceled health plans, narrow provider networks and higher premiums while linking Landrieu and Udall to those problems -- but she speaks in general talking points. The new ad buy is $1.7 million across the two states, and the spots will run for three weeks.
It's a notably different style after the group incurred the wrath of fact-checkers over an ad released last month in the Michigan Senate race. That ad told the story of a cancer patient who had her plan canceled because of Obamacare. But the spot didn't mention that the subject would save at least $1,200 for a new health plan under the law, as TPM and numerous other-fact-checkers reported.
Another AFP ad featuring a Medicare recipient earned a "Two Pinocchios" rating from the Washington Post. The Huffington Post called out a third ad, featuring a couple whose policy had been canceled, in the Arkansas Senate race last week.
UPDATE, 2:35 p.m. ET
"We are currently on-air with many different types of ads, including personal testimony of Obamacare impact," AFP spokesman Levi Jacobs told TPM. "This is the same strategy we've been using for 6 months. This does not represent a shift in strategy."
Though the group billed these as "new ads" multiple times throughout its announcement, Jacobs noted that a similar version has run in North Carolina against Sen. Kay Hagan (D-NC) prior to the ad buys in Colorado and Louisiana.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/afp-obamacare-horror-stories-no-more

 

You can spew all the far left crap they feed you but I have a unique perspective now that I work for a hospital. Yep, that's right! I am doing a 6 month consulting gig with a large healthcare system.
Did you know that Obamacare has not only reduced the re-imbursements paid to hospitals it has also tied the level of re-imbursement to a customer satisfaction index? Hospitals all across the country are discharging patients who aren't happy with their doctor, with their medications or even silly little things such as their meal selection, just to name a few.
Want another one? Many long-term care facilities & nursing homes aren't accepting Medicare patients now. We have 20 some patients who need placed but we can't find anyone to take them so they remain in the hospital (even though they could be better taken care of in a specialized facility). Placing these patients hasn't been an issue for us before but now that re-imbursements are so drastically reduced the facilities are refusing to take them in.
More? Emergency rooms are over crowded because patients are going there (where costs are much greater) instead of seeing physicians in their offices.

 

Oh Boy! Another anecdotal fairytale that just happens to fit your narrative and this time, it's a "consulting gig".

Because my wife has a PhD in health policy, I've learned enough over the last 35 years to know just how full of holes and BS your little story is. The only "consulting gig" you are suited for is Aesop's fables.

The crap that is being spewed is supplied by the Koch Bros and your sucking their asses hard.

 

And I found out how much you " learned enough over the last 35 years" when you tried to tell me my hospital stay should have cost over $250,000. OOPS! It only cost $50,000 and that was in the number 1 hospital in the nation for patient satisfaction.

 

First off, do you have any clue as to how little I care whether or not you believe me? I realize you've been programmed to dismiss anything that doesn't fit your far left whack job narrative but at some point the truth will have to sink in.

Secondly, just because your wife supposedly has some type of experience really doesn't mean you have absorbed her knowledge., Heck, if she had a wit of sense, she wouldn't have tolerated you for 35 minutes much less 35 years.

 

And, BTW, neither you, your wife, nor David can possibly comprehend the entire 21,000 pages of the bill and its regulations. Not even all 3 of you put together! And it is still growing!!!!!

 

Hey guys! Take it easy on poor little JoeNation. After all, his wife has a PhD. And he stayed at a Holiday Inn last night, too.

 

Attacking me will not lend the BS you spew an iota of credibility. If you had any credibility in the first place, you'd offer something other than your opinion. You have nothing so you attack me with childish insults. That's all the proof anyone needs see what a phony you are and how you simply make up stories to fit any narrative you just watched on FOX. Tool!

 

You have the gall to complain about that as an attack on you. WOW! All I had to do was go to you last post here to find this;

 

Nor will your attacks discredit these real world examples of what I've witnessed firsthand.
I understand that a little "that does not compute" warning goes off in your head when evidence that contradicts the far left narrative is presented but heck, ask your wife. If she actually has any real experience in healthcare she'll verify the devastating effect Obamacare is having on hospitals, patients & healthcare workers.

 

That may be a problem. I'm not saying it's like this in Little Joe's case, but there are PhDs who have no "real experience". Their "experience" is all academic or philosophical. They may know how to read a chart or "know the numbers", but have absolutely no knowledge on the effect or impact this trainwreck of a law is actually having on people. They're too insulated from the reality of the situation.

 

I recall one republican argument that said services would take longer to receive due to more people being serviced.

Now, the argument appears to be that hospitals are not making enough money because of the payment system.

First off, I heard the latter complaint directly from my doc. He whined about it after I mentioned that hospitals charge wayyyy too much money for common items and services. The example I gave him was of a hospital bill that stated "One pair of small surgical gloves: $5.00, One pair of medium surgical gloves: $6.oo, Two tylenol: $7.00"...and so on and so on. He said the hospital inflates prices because Medicare and Medicaid doesn't pay the full cost. Why would they, when the costs are inflated?

One point here is that hospitals are going to make money, as they always have, by inflating prices...like they always have.

Another point is that republicans sure like to make both sides of an argument, when they think it serves them. It doesn't, as it only shows just how idiotic their arguments are in any case. That point? Crying "Wolf" at every turn is only going to come back and bite you in the ass. Good thing you're at a hospital. Just don't look at the bill, it's wayyyy out of proportion for the services rendered.

 

One of the chief reasons for skyrocketing health care costs is the huge profits that some hospitals make annually. Not all hospitals are for-profit so you have to realize that you can't ever talk about "all" hospitals. The more profitable ones operate on average a 25% profit margin and some as high as 50-60 percent. You can bet that the really profitable ones are crying right along side of the not-for-profit hospitals to try and blend in. That is why the OP is such a fairytale. He doesn't even bother making a distinction between the different types of hospitals showing that he knows nothing.

 

For most hospitals, 50% of their patients are Medicare/Medicaid and government re-imburses, on average, 70% of the hospitals true cost, 10% of patients don't pay at all, leaving the other 50%, covered by commercial policies to make up the difference. What a hospital charges doesn't matter a bit when Medicare/Medicaid is only going to pay what they are going to pay and another segment of the population isn't going to pay anything at all. What a hospital charges only matters when the full bill is being paid.

 

Typical:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...07000-medical-bill-after-obamacare-breakdown/

 

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March 18, 2014

The busted ObamaCare websites cost a lot of people a lot of time. But for one Nevada man, problems with the state insurance exchange reportedly cost him $407,000.

The Las Vegas Review-Journal reported that Larry Basich, a 62-year-old Vegas resident, has been stuck with the massive medical bill despite signing up for an insurance plan via the state exchange last fall.

Basich, according to the article, selected a UnitedHealthcare plan in November, and even paid his first premium. But he never received confirmation that he was enrolled, despite being assured that he was by Nevada Health Link.

Amid the confusion, Basich suffered a heart attack at the end of December, and had to undergo a triple bypass. Now, according to the Review-Journal, no insurer will claim his bills -- and he's caught in a financially frightening battle as he appeals to the exchange and its contractor, Xerox, for help.

"All I wanted to do when I moved here was buy a house, get a dog and go to some spring training games for the Dodgers," Basich, who moved from Hawaii, told the newspaper.

Xerox reportedly tried to assign Basich's bills to another insurance plan, but that plan is refusing to accept them. Basich's insurance broker also complained that Xerox is spending a lot of time lawyering up and documenting all of Basich's communications.

"I believe Xerox is covering themselves because of a huge system error," broker Tamar Burch told the paper.

But Xerox reportedly says the company is trying to fix the problem. "Mr. Basich's issue is complex, and we're working on it every day," a spokeswoman told the paper.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...07000-medical-bill-after-obamacare-breakdown/

 

Interesting. I am glad I am no longer tied to Xerox profits.

 

Oh, but according to moron joe, this isn't a real person suffering from the clutches of Obamacare, he's merely a piece of "anecdotal evidence". Harry Reid says the guy's lying so you know who moron joe is going to side with.