Who Controls Medical Legislation More: Lawyers - Doc's - Pharm's - Ins. Co's or is it a 4-way tie?

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  1. c jay
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    c jay Well-Known Member

    eWe, OK I get it now. "such as eWe did." A personal insult liking me to a mindless sheep following the masses. Cleaver use of the word.

    Thanks!
    eWe :D
     
  2. CoinOKC
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    CoinOKC T R U M P

    MMMM.. not so fast, c jay. If he is referring to sheep, specifically a ewe is a female sheep. No males are "ewes". So, is he referring to only the female populace? I don't know. But, here are some other uses of the word "ewe" to which he may be referring. Maybe he thinks modern medicine is trying to turn us all into New Zealand Rugby players. Will you enlighten us, Toad? What exactly do you mean by "eWe"???

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  3. c jay
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    c jay Well-Known Member

    Do you think he called me a girl? I haven't been called that since high school, back when I had long hair. It by a bunch of guys with crew cuts and badges. They really just thought I was a dope smoking hippie scum, which I was, but that was then and this is now. I haven't had a joint in over 40 years.
     
  4. Toad

    Toad New Member

    Then maybe this will help:


    The kNot-naUght Riddle

    If eWe are thoUght kNot
    And eYe am naUght thoUght
    Then Now is Then
    And Then is When
    What y0u and I can’t be taUght


    ”An Open System is Simplicity, whereas a Closed System is Complicated; so via Newton’s 3rd Law of Motion, all it takes to Complicate an Open System, is Can, whereas on the flip, all it takes to Simplify a Closed System, is Can’t and when an Open System is surrounded by Can’t, it too Can only Can’t, but such is the replicative nature of Can’t, wherefrom, Can Can do both and even at the same time but Can’t Can’t Can.” – Old Toad Proverb

    Ribbit :)
     
  5. Toad

    Toad New Member

    Otay, it's clear you are flip-flopping and not realizing it.

    On one hand, you say we are better off, but then on the other hand, you say it's not without its problems and that we tend to be over aggressive.

    The problem is in the word "we" and the fact that it only applies to certain peeps each time and not everyone all the time because WE can't be better off and at the same time WE can't be having problems from it, unless the WE's are two different entities, which they are.

    One WE are Doctors & Chemists at Pharmaceutical Companies, the other WE are Scientists doing Research and finding the answers, but sometimes this WE gets the wrong answer as well, just like those educated idiots that tried to find a cure for Ulcers, via killing a known Bacteria in your Stomach that known to cause Ulcers, and they succeeded in curing your Ulcers by killing those Bacteria but now everyone that's had that shot and been cured of their Ulcers and now they will not get Ulcers ever again, they are ALL Lactose Intolerant and can't eat Dairy products without severe adverse affects. Is that what you call better off?

    Tit-4-Tat Medicine is for Closed Minded Idiots but you seem to think We have it better now? No we do not have it better now, it's much worse than it's ever been but your Doctors tell you a different story but their Price-tag says they're lying through their teeth.

    Ribbit :)
     
  6. Toad

    Toad New Member

    The last sentence explains the problem. :D

    Smoke'em if you got'em, otherwise, burnout! ;)

    Ribbit :p
     
  7. CoinOKC
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    CoinOKC T R U M P

    Well, now that explains it.
     
  8. Toad

    Toad New Member

    it was eWe that said we are better off today with Doctors that only use the preliminary diabetes test to diagnose you with diabetes, when that test is notorious for giving false positives, especially if you are on any head meds.

    Thousands of peeps are loving your better way of life, while suffering taking diabetic medicines they don't even need because they aren't diabetic.

    Duh!

    eWe is a sheep!e.

    Ribbit :)
     
  9. c jay
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    c jay Well-Known Member

    No, I do not have a copy or did I claim that such a thing exist. This is a forum and I was stating my opinion. Further more, I am not a doctor, medical professional, or sell pharmaceuticals out of my basement. The response was based on general knowledge and an option was offered. The point I was making is that we are much better off with "Modern Medicine" than we were 800 years ago. I believe that this has had a dramatic effect in improving our longevity and quality of life. I also stated that it is not without it's problems. We tend to be over aggressive in treatments, diagnosis, and medication. My personal doctor is conservative when it comes to handing out the pills, and encourages life style changes. This I agree with. What I don't agree with is throwing the baby out with the bath water. If you want to toss out scientific methodology and base medical practices on spiritual and political beliefs, then you're simply clamoring for a new dark age. I welcome to hear your opinion and hope we have an interesting discussion.

    Otay, it's clear you are flip-flopping and not realizing it.

    On one hand, you say we are better off, but then on the other hand, you say it's not without its problems and that we tend to be over aggressive.

    The problem is in the word "we" and the fact that it only applies to certain peeps each time and not everyone all the time because WE can't be better off and at the same time WE can't be having problems from it, unless the WE's are two different entities, which they are.

    One WE are Doctors & Chemists at Pharmaceutical Companies, the other WE are Scientists doing Research and finding the answers, but sometimes this WE gets the wrong answer as well, just like those educated idiots that tried to find a cure for Ulcers, via killing a known Bacteria in your Stomach that known to cause Ulcers, and they succeeded in curing your Ulcers by killing those Bacteria but now everyone that's had that shot and been cured of their Ulcers and now they will not get Ulcers ever again, they are ALL Lactose Intolerant and can't eat Dairy products without severe adverse affects. Is that what you call better off?

    Tit-4-Tat Medicine is for Closed Minded Idiots but you seem to think We have it better now? No we do not have it better now, it's much worse than it's ever been but your Doctors tell you a different story but their Price-tag says they're lying through their teeth.

    Ribbit :)

    No, I don't believe I'm flip flopping. I am approaching the discussion with, perhaps, the misunderstanding that you are opposed to Modern Medicine and medical research. If this is the case my apologies. However I am of the opinion that the human race is better off today with the medical advances made since the dark ages. This is self evident in the general overall health and longevity of the population. Is it perfect, of course not, such perfection does not exist. Any human endeavor has it share of successes and equally stunning failures. Taking your example of the Ulcer cure. The shot in it's self is only a half measure, finding a routine that restores stomach bacteria necessary for digesting dairy products without incurring an ulcer, I would call much better off. You may also find the WE who are Doctors and Chemist at Pharmaceutical Companies are often the same WE who are Scientist doing research and searching for answers. To assume that they will find the perfect cure each time and never have unintentional side effects is a bit naïve. To assume that their only motives are financial, is the height of cynicism.

    Thank you for the reply, interesting riddle and tag line.
     
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  10. Toad

    Toad New Member

    Let's see, I've already posted the Cure for Lactose Intolerance online.

    I guess you haven't read it?

    http://www.ccfacommunity.org/Post.aspx?Forum=9&Thread=10638&Login=30086&topictype=ActiveTopics

    As to Research, I'm all about that, it's the improper Research that violates the Rules, like that One Shot Ulcer Cure violated the Rule of "Proof before Death", which simply says you always prove that killing something is the Correct way to solve the issue, prior to ever killing anything that's within your body because once Dead, it's Dead! You are not suppose to kill anything without going thru the proper steps first but they aren't following the steps. Why? Money! They are making a fortune off that One Shot Ulcer Cure and soon, when all those Lactose Intolerant peeps get wind of why they can't eat cheese anymore, they will be faced with a Class Action Lawsuit that will take

    Ribbit :)
     
  11. Toad

    Toad New Member

    ck
    back every penny they made, and then sum. ;)

    So I'm not against Research, I'm all for it, just proper Research, with valid Results, not Opinionated Results.

    Ribbit :)

    Ps: I accidentally hit the post button. Oops!
     
  12. Toad

    Toad New Member

    Motives?

    Why look for a cure that's already known?

    More than 10 years ago, with Modern Research behind it, they found the Cure for Ulcers and that cure is Hot Peppers.

    Why doesn't every Doctor know about that Natural Cure, that Modern Medical Research Discovered?

    Put simply, what good does it do to find the True Answers to our Medical problems, if those administering said Medicine don't even know about it?

    That's the problem! The Pharmaceuticals have Profit driving them that forces them to inform Doctors of their Drug that's available but that system does not included Research, so the only time a Doctor reads any of the new Research, is when they go looking for the Research, since it doesn't show up in their Inbox like the Pharmaceutical Advertisements do.

    We need to fix that problem, first-and-foremost, then proceed from there!

    Ribbit :)
     

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