Another Georgia Republican Forgot The Camera Was Rolling, Accidentally Spoke His Mind

So if you get sick, it's your own fault. Remember that folks.

 

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/994951f8-5e71-11e3-8621-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2n10y0FNM

 

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That's a pretty fair analogy. He's just saying you should be responsible and get insurance while your young...the same thing the President says...but takes away anyone's incentive to do so.

Now...if you would only adopt Tea Party economic policies that create good paying job opportunities for everyone (that makes an effort), there wouldn't be a healthcare problem in this country an no one would have to worry about pre-existing conditions.

 

So the president is saying the same thing you are saying but HE is wrong for actually making it happen?

There should be a internet constant that says as soon as you use an analogy to a car or driving, you have lost the argument. Having a pre-existing medical condition is completely different than having an instantaneous car accident. You can be born with a pre-existing condition, you can't be born with a car accident.

 

...not when he uses the IRS "SS" to enforce behavior.

...not when the Liberal/Progressive "master plan" is to enforce eugenic sterilization and genocide (via healthcare denial) on anyone they deem to be "unfit". They "actually made it happen" in the 1920's and 1930's...and it was wrong then.

 

As usual...you completely miss the point (or purposefully skew it to match your narrative).

The point of the video was to compare mandatory medical insurance to mandatory auto insurance. Granted, a person that has maintained health insurance shouldn't be cancelled if they develop and unhealthy condition...the video wasn't saying that.

The point is that Insurance companies are being forced to cover "new" unhealthy people at the same rate as "new" healthy people. The video simply compares that way of thinking to an automobile insurance company being forced to cover (and pay to repair) a car "after" it's been in an accident...at the same rate as covering a car in great shape.

It turns the whole actuarial profession on its ear. (duh!)

Joe...you're really a piece of work!

 

Yes the point was missed and you did it well. The insurance companies are in no danger of going out of business. It's nice that they have YOU to defend their interests though. Every abusive industry needs shills.

 

Ah! The usual hitler reference. Thanks for playing but you just lost the argument.

 

Here's a better way looking at it. If I have a car with dents and in need of repair, and I purchase auto insurance, then we are saying that the insurance company is now responsible for restoring the car to mint condition. After the car has been restored, I am also free to cancel the insurance or switch companies for a better rate. So how do you make this work? In auto insurance you also reach a point where you total the car. In health insurance, at what point do you total grannie. You can't. Our ability to provide rescue medicine and intensive care far exceeds our ability to pay for it. You can channel more resources into rescue medicine and defer elective and preventative services, but in the end, it looks a whole lot like the housing bubble, thinking you can afford a $600,000.00 house and only pay $1,000.00 a month.

 

What is it you people don't get about pooled risk? Healthier young people use less medical services but still have the possibility of developing a terminal disease. They need coverage. Older people that have paid into an insurance plan for many more years use more services. The younger people will eventually grow up and also use more medical services. The way you guys talk about insurance you'd think it was only there to insure healthy people. You do know that cars are safer today because insurance companies have pushed them to be safer. Health insurance will work exactly the same way. What you want is the industry making us healthier on the front end not shedding people on the back end because they are sick. So if you insist on using the car analogy, look at how insurers have made cars safer. It is closer to reality than any of your analogies.

 

Was hoping to get to those points, but had trouble shifting gears and stalled out. Safer cars, good analogy. Joe, I agree with most of what you have said above.

 

And I never said that insurance companies were evil. Although some clearly are. I also think guns should be required to be insured. If you get hit by a car, the driver has insurance to cover any death or damage but if you get killed by a gun, you get nothing. If you think about it, insurance is really socialism. Who knew?

 

Don't thank me, thank Obama...he's the one that's backing Insurance Industry profits with Tax Dollars. I think the Insurance Industry is propped up by Government too much as it is.

Trial Lawyers, Tax Accountants, Fraudulent Insurance Companies...that's all Liberal/Progressives nonsense.

 

Joe...amazing, we're in agreement! Let young people buy cheap, catastrophic policies and put the balance into a self-directed "Medical IRA/spending account" they can access for emergency healthcare bills throughout their lives. If I were young, I would be crazy not to sign up for that! ...voluntarily!

That, and Tort Reform would be a great baby-step toward healthcare reform. See how it goes and expand from there. This Obamacare monstrosity is just off the hook "bad". You can't force people to buy coverage they don't want or need just because Liberal/Progressives think everyone will be better off if only they were intelligent enough to understand it.

 

There...you said it!

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