So Rand Paul Wishes He Could Shoot the People Who Called Him Out for Plagiarism

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  1. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    ...still waiting for your condemnation of Biden for creating a fake back story (complete with fictitious relatives!) and BO for copying Deval Patrick's speeches.
     
  2. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    So Rand Paul has so far blamed the people calling him out for plagiarizing (the haters), he has blamed his staff, blames his work schedule, and now the media. He'll never take responsibility because that would take character. He simply has none.


    Rand Paul On Plagiarism Claims: 'It Annoys The Hell Out Of Me'
    The Huffington Post | By Sabrina Siddiqui Posted: 11/06/2013 11:44 am EST | Updated: 11/06/2013 11:52 am EST


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    WASHINGTON -- Sen. Rand Paul lashed out at the media Wednesday for its coverage of the plagiarism allegations that have rocked the Kentucky Republican over the last week.
    A day after announcing plans to amend the approval process for speeches and op-eds under his name, Paul told National Review he was so frustrated with the negative press that he would have failed reporters if he were their journalism teacher.
    "What makes me mad about the whole thing is that I believe there is a difference between errors of omission and errors of intention," Paul said in an interview with National Review's Robert Costa. "We aren’t perfect and we have made errors of omission, but we never intended to mislead anybody."
    "I’m being criticized for not having proper attribution, and yet they are able to write stuff that if I were their journalism teacher in college, I would fail them," he added.
    MSNBC's Rachel Maddow revealed last week that Paul, a likely candidate for president in 2016, had lifted material from the Wikipedia page for the 1997 film "Gattaca" while stumping for former Virginia gubernatorial candidate Ken Cuccinelli. Buzzfeed reported the following day that Paul had also borrowed from the Wikipedia page of "Stand and Deliver" for a previous speech on immigration.
    Paul initially rejected the plagiarism charges and likened them to "attacks coming from haters." He later said the claims were "insulting" and challenged his accusers to a duel if they kept up the reports.
    Paul didn't apologize and pledge fixes until Tuesday, a day after Buzzfeed reported that an op-ed he wrote on drug sentencing for The Washington Times was copied nearly verbatim from an op-ed published by Dan Stewart in The Week.
    The Washington Times announced later Tuesday that the newspaper and Paul had "mutually agreed" to end his weekly column.
    The Kentucky senator told The New York Times he would begin adding footnotes and citations to his material so people would leave him "the hell alone."
    Yet, citations and footnotes wouldn't necessarily resolve the issue, as it is still plagiarism when source material is lifted directly and isn't paraphrased, footnotes or not.
    And the remorse didn't appear to last long, as Paul continued to play the victim in his comments to National Review Wednesday.
    "It annoys the hell out of me," Paul said. "I feel like if I could just go to detention after school for a couple days, then everything would be okay. But do I have to be in detention for the rest of my career?"
    One thing Paul neglected to mention for all his threats to school the journalists covering the plagiarism allegations: most teachers would fail their students for plagiarizing.
     
  3. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    It just keeps getting better...:D

    Rand Paul, victim

    11/06/13 03:15 PM

    By Steve Benen

    I’d more or less assumed that the controversy surrounding Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) habitually presenting others’ work as his own had run its course. The Republican senator got caught, he tried a variety of strange excuses, he made an odd comment about duels, and then Paul eventually conceded he and his staff “made mistakes” and would change their policies.

    The capstone came last night when the conservative Washington Times, which ran one of Paul’s plagiarized pieces, said it would no longer publish a weekly column from the Kentucky lawmaker.

    But instead of moving on, Paul has decided to portray himself as a victim. Robert Costa reports today:

    In an interview with National Review Online on Capitol Hill, Paul was furious, especially with the press coverage of the allegations. “It annoys the hell out of me,” Paul said. “I feel like if I could just go to detention after school for a couple days, then everything would be okay. But do I have to be in detention for the rest of my career?”​

    Paul, a likely candidate for the Republican presidential nomination, also said he is sensitive about his character being questioned. “What makes me mad about the whole thing is that I believe there is a difference between errors of omission and errors of intention,” he said.​

    It’s an odd approach. Paul presented others’ work as his own, on a wide variety of occasions, and in several types of media (speeches, op-eds, and books). He’s “annoyed,” not with himself for his persistent wrongdoing, but with those who pointed out his mistakes. Since he didn’t “intend” to plagiarize, Paul considers recent criticism unfounded.

    What’s more, the senator said of journalists, “I’m being criticized for not having proper attribution, and yet they are able to write stuff that if I were their journalism teacher in college, I would fail them.”

    It’s not clear who or what he’s referring to. Paul, who was a self-accredited ophthalmologist before getting elected to the Senate, has no background in journalism, and hasn’t pointed to any flaws in the reports that have highlighted instances in which he presented others’ work as his own.

    Rather, it seems as if the senator is simply irritated by accurate reports about his own mistakes. Self-reflection can be difficult and awkward, and it appears Paul finds it easier to lash out at those who presented inconvenient truths about his record to the public.

    The editorial board of the senator’s hometown paper, the Louisville Courier-Journal, seems to find Paul’s self-pity tiresome (thanks to my colleague Mike Yarvitz for the heads-up).

    Mr. Paul’s reaction so far has not been to plead guilty and beg forgiveness. That’s not his style. He has instead claimed to be victim of a “witch-hunt” by “hacks and haters.” … And he said takes it as an “insult” that people would accuse him of being “dishonest, misleading or misrepresenting. I have never intentionally done so.”​

    The real insult here is that Mr. Paul would expect voters to believe his half-baked, nutty explanations. The real insult is that he would expect us to believe he’s not at fault and this is the result of partisan opponents.​

    But the biggest insult is that he would use a writer’s or researcher’s words, claim them as his own and expect everyone to look away when he gets caught.


    This is arguably Paul’s first meaningful test of adversity since getting elected in 2010, which offers a peak into his character and instincts as a politician. So far, it would appear the senator is struggling badly with this test.

    http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/rand-paul-victim
     
  4. JoeNation
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  5. yakpoo
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    yakpoo Well-Known Member

    Seriously? Wikipedia? ...you start a thread with nothing more than that? Copying Wikipedia is like copying the dictionary.

    I copy Wikipedia all the time. If you ever did any of your own research, you would know that! :confused:
     
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  6. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    You should really read the whole thread before you spout off. You are right about on thing, copying Wikipedia or the dictionary or any written source is still plagiarism if you don't attribute your source.
     
  7. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Does anyone, besides the comedians on MSNBC, think this merits discussion? I didn't think so...much ado about nothing...another far left-created drama. Paul must really have the lefties shaking in their shoes!
     
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  8. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    What Rand Paul did currently and to a far greater degree isn't worth discussing but what Biden did 25 years ago is worth discussing? I see.
    If plagiarism can follow Biden for 25 years, cause him to drop out of the 1988 presidential race, imagine how long this can follow Paul.

    Your hypocrisy is glaring.
     
  9. yakpoo
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    yakpoo Well-Known Member


    Really? Biden plagiarized something?
     
  10. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    "It got so bad that the Biden campaign tried to invent a coal-mining uncle to match Kinnock's" LOL did they honestly try to do this, do you know David? :D
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  11. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    Let's see, Paul senior lets some guy ghost write his work and then denies the words are his after he starts taking heat for what is written in his name while Paul junior simply steals other people's work and calls it his own and only gets angry at those that point it out when he is caught.

    Libertarians - Putting forth the concept that they should be able to steal and lie without government media interference.
     
  12. yakpoo
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    yakpoo Well-Known Member

    ...and Al Gore left all the lights on in every room of his huge mansion in Tennessee and his new home in California. while telling everyone to live a "green" lifestyle. Yet, you don't hear us going on about it.

    Pretty nice digs on a VP salary!

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