What’s Really Obstructing Obamacare? GOP Resisters

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  1. JoeNation
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    What’s Really Obstructing Obamacare? GOP Resisters

    by Michael Tomasky Nov 2, 2013 5:45 AM EDT
    Republicans at all levels of government have put up roadblocks to undermine the Affordable Care Act rollout. It’s an orchestrated resistance with only one very ugly precedent.
    So we’re a month into the Obamacare era. What does your average American know about it? That the website is mess, and some number of Americans have suddenly lost their coverage after Barack Obama assured them that wouldn’t happen. These things are true, and a person would be quite wrong to deny this is deeply problematic.
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    But I wonder how many Americans know the other side of the coin. There are already numerous success stories out there. And then there’s the side of the story that has certainly received coverage but not nearly as much as it deserves to, which is the way—did I say way? Ways—the Republican Party is trying to make sure it fails. Todd Purdum wrote a piece for Politico yesterday on the GOP’s “sabotage” of the law. It was a terrific article, but he didn’t say the half of it.
    All across the country, Republican governors and insurance commissioners have actively and directly blocked efforts to make the law work. In August, the Obama administration announced that it had awarded contracts to 105 “navigators” to help guide people through their new predicaments and options. There were local health-care providers, community groups, Planned Parenthood outposts, and even business groups. Again—people and groups given the job, under an existing federal law, to help people understand that law.
    What has happened, predictably, is that in at least 17 states where Republicans are in charge, a variety of roadblocks has been thrown in front of these folks. In Indiana, they were required to pay fees of $175. In Florida, which under Governor Rick Scott (who knows a thing or two about how to game the health-care system, you may recall) has been probably the most aggressive state of all here, the health department ruled that local public-health offices can’t have navigators on their premises (interesting, because local public health offices tend to be where uninsured people hang out). In West Virginia, Utah, Pennsylvania, and other states, grantees have said no thanks and returned the dough after statewide GOP elected officials started getting in their faces and asking lots of questions about how they operate and what they planned to do. Tennessee issued “emergency rules” requiring their employees to be fingerprinted and undergo background checks.
    America, 2013: No background checks to buy assault weapons. But you damn well better not try to enroll someone in health care.
    America, 2013: No background checks to buy assault weapons. But you damn well better not try to enroll someone in health care.
    If you Google “Obamacare navigators,” you will be hit smack in the fact with the usual agitprop. “Reports” raise “questions” about their qualifications, you see. This is the old trick of finding one bad apple and extrapolating away to beat the band. But in this case the alleged bad apple wasn’t even bad. One enrollment assister in Lawrence, Kansas—one!—had an outstanding warrant. She hadn’t even been aware of the warrant. The group she worked for said, apparently credibly, that the warrant was “no longer active.” (Interestingly under the circumstances, it was about… an unpaid medical bill!) But my favorite story linked—inevitably—the navigator program to ACORN. You will recall that no one ever proved that anybody from ACORN ever did anything wrong, but of course in right-wing land this means nothing.
    A second front: Now, with people trying to sign up, some Republican legislators are openly saying that they won’t permit their staffs to answer constituents’ questions about Obamacare. This is really the main job of a member of Congress, especially a House member: People call up all the time with questions about how to slice their way through the federal government’s briar patches, and you have caseworkers on duty—typically a couple in Washington and several more back home in the district regional offices—whose job is exactly that.
    Purdum quoted Kansas Rep. Tim Huelskamp as saying he instructs his staff to refer callers to Kathleen Sebelius. But Huelskamp is not alone. Tennessee’s Diane Black says she doesn’t feel comfortable referring people to navigators. Utah’s Jason Chaffetz is referring people back to the administration, saying: “We know how to forward a phone call.”
    Someone I know asked the other day: Has there ever been a law in the history of the country as aggressively resisted by the political opposition as this? Republicans didn’t do this with Social Security. Most of them voted for Social Security. They didn’t do it with Medicare. They, and the Southern racists who were then Democrats, didn’t do it with civil rights. There was a fair amount of on-the-ground opposition to that, but it wasn’t orchestrated at the national level like this was. And when the Voting Rights Act was passed the year after civil rights, Southern states in fact fell in line quickly. Check the black voter-registration figures from Southern states in 1964 versus 1966. It’s pretty amazing.
    No, to find obstinacy like this, you have to go back, yes, to the pre-Civil War era. The tariff of 1828, the Kansas-Nebraska Act, which led to the civil war in “Bloody Kansas” and ultimately to the Civil War itself. Not comforting thought. But it’s where we are.
    The administration’s cockups are a legitimate story. I’ve never said otherwise. My first column about the website was quite tough on the administration and on Obama personally, when I wrote that I found it shocking that he apparently wasn’t riding herd on staff to make damn sure the thing worked. I said on television, to some host’s surprise, that yes, I did hold him accountable for the mistakes.
    So I get why that’s a story. But the sabotage is a story, too. A huge one. It’s almost without precedent in American history, and the precedent it does have includes some of the ugliest chapters in this nation’s history. It gets coverage, yes. But not nearly the coverage it deserves. As is so often the case—as with Benghazi, as with Fast and Furious, as with the IRS—the bigger scandal is on the Republican side.

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  2. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    More like a few years into Obamacare...the website is just a harbinger of things to come...the "number of Americans" who lost their coverage is well into the hundreds of thousands...."problematic"? That's putting it mildly!
     
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  3. JoeNation
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    Keep obstructing patient rights. I'm sure that will work out for your party just like disenfranchising minorities has worked out for you. Just like your war on women has worked out for you. Just like your war on the poor, immigrants, and the elderly has worked out for you. You idiots never learn.
     
  4. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    So, are still too much of a coward to tell us whether or not you favor the elimination of private gun ownership in the US?
     
  5. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    Just for you.
     
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Obama and Obamacare are doing a fine job of obstructing both patients rights and the right of the rest of us. Why do we need to pile on?
     
  7. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    And yet you Right-wing pukes do.
     
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Oh, but it is so much fun watching you and your ilk trying to undo your lies.
     
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  9. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    BO's entire reign has been built on lies & the hope that there are enough stupid people who will continue believing them.
     
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    You missed the lame street press. They have done just about all they can to hide his mistakes and/or blame someone else.
     
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  11. JoeNation
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    Really? Another RW lie on your part?

    Proof you say?

    Media Surprised By Obamacare's Effect On Insurance Coverage Admin Explained Years Ago

    Research October 29, 2013 2:39 PM EDT ››› HANNAH GROCH-BEGLEY & MICHELLE LEUNG

    Media reports suggested that it was previously unknown that some in the individual insurance market would have to seek new health care plans due to the Affordable Care Act's (ACA) regulations. In fact, the administration announced in 2010 that some insurance policies would not be "grandfathered" in under the new law, largely due to regular turnover in the health insurance marketplace.

    Media Reports Claim Fact That Some Insurance Plans Will Change Under The ACA Was "Unexpected" And Hidden By Obama Administration

    NBC: Grandfather Clause "Buried In Obamacare Regulations." NBC's Lisa Myers and Hannah Rappleye misleadingly reported that Obama did not previously disclose his knowledge that many consumers might not be able to keep their original health insurance plans, ignoring the fact that this was announced by his administration in 2010. From the NBC News Investigations blog:
    Buried in Obamacare regulations from July 2010 is an estimate that because of normal turnover in the individual insurance market, "40 to 67 percent" of customers will not be able to keep their policy. And because many policies will have been changed since the key date, "the percentage of individual market policies losing grandfather status in a given year exceeds the 40 to 67 percent range."​
    That means the administration knew that more than 40 to 67 percent of those in the individual market would not be able to keep their plans, even if they liked them.​
    Yet President Obama, who had promised in 2009, "if you like your health plan, you will be able to keep your health plan," was still saying in 2012, "If [you] already have health insurance, you will keep your health insurance." [NBC News, 10/29/13]​
    USA Today Echoed Misleading NBC Report To Imply Obama Lied About Individuals Keeping Their Health Insurance. An October 29 USA Today article hyped the misleading NBC report, claiming that the White House knew insurance plans would be canceled under the ACA, but does not include the important fact that this information was made public in 2010:
    Millions of Americans are getting their health insurance canceled under the Affordable Care Act and the Obama administration has known for about three years that this would happen, NBC News is reporting.​
    [...]​
    NBC alleges the administration knew that up to 67% of customers on the individual market could have their policies canceled, but instead, President Obama said as recently as in 2012, "If (you) already have health insurance, you will keep your health insurance."​
    The White House told NBC that people whose policies will be canceled will, in most cases, be automatically shifted to plans with better protections. [USA Today, 10/29/13]​
    CNN's Ashleigh Banfield Claims The Administration "Didn't Saying Anything" About Some Policies Changing. CNN host Ashleigh Banfield played clips of Obama saying "if you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan," and responded by claiming that the administration "didn't saying anything" to warn that health insurance policies might change. CNN correspondent Joe Johns corrected her, explaining that "this story's been around a long time." [CNN, Legal View with Ashleigh Banfield, 10/29/13]
    Fox News' Steve Doocy: "Back In 2010, They Knew Millions Would Lose It And They Didn't Say A Word." On Fox & Friends, co-host Steve Doocy falsely claimed that the president had hid the fact that some individuals would experience changes to their insurance coverage under the Affordable Care Act, saying "So you've seen the president and a number of Democrats, high ranking officials say, if you like your insurance, you can keep it -- back in 2010, they knew millions would lose it, and they didn't say a word." [Fox News, Fox & Friends, 10/29/13, via Media Matters]
    CBS News: Changes To Insurance Plans "An Unexpected Reality." CBS News reported that the fact some individuals would have policies change under the law was "an unexpected reality of Obamacare":
    There have been estimates about hundreds of thousands of people losing coverage, CBS News' Jan Crawford reported on "CBS This Morning." CBS News has reached out to insurance companies across the country to determine some of the real numbers -- and this is just the tip of the iceberg, Crawford said. The people who are opening the letters are shocked to learn they can't keep their insurance policies despite President Obama's assurances to the contrary.​
    The White House is on the defensive trying to explain it, after Mr. Obama repeatedly said, "If you like your doctor or health care plan, you can keep it."​
    White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said, "What the president said and what everybody said all along is that there are going to be changes brought about by the Affordable Care Act to create minimum standards of coverage."​
    It's an unexpected reality of Obamacare being told through anecdotes in local papers and on social media. But the hard numbers reveal the evidence is far more than anecdotal. CBS News has confirmed with insurance companies across the country that more than two million people are getting notices they no longer can keep their existing plans. [CBS News, 10/29/13]​
    Wash. Times: White House "Acknowledged For the First Time Monday" That Some Consumers Will Need To Switch Plans. The Washington Times claimed that the "White House acknowledged for the first time Monday that President Obama's oft-repeated promise that everyone can keep their health insurance plans under Obamacare just isn't true." [The Washington Times, 10/29/13]
    Administration Acknowledged Some Plans Would Change In 2010

    HHS Press Release, June 2010: "Roughly 42 Million People Insured Through Small Businesses Will Likely Transition From Their Current Plan." A June 2010 press release from the Department of Health and Human Services explicitly stated that some individuals would face changes to their plans, stating "roughly 42 million people insured through small businesses will likely transition from their current plan to one with the new Affordable Care Act protections over the next few years" and that the 17 million "who are covered in the individual health insurance market, where switching of plans and substantial changes in coverage are common, will receive the new protections of the Affordable Care Act." The release further noted that when a plan is not grandfathered in, individuals would still be eligible for the same basic health insurance minimums:
    Roughly 40 percent to two-thirds of people in individual market policies normally change plans within a year. In the short run, individuals whose plan changes and is no longer grandfathered will gain access to free preventive services, protections against restricted annual limits, and patient protections such as improved access to emergency rooms. [U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, 6/14/10]​
     
  12. JoeNation
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    Had to continue with more proof...

    Sec. Sebelius, June 2010: If Health Plans Significantly Change, "They Lose Their Grandfather Status." On June 14, 2010, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius announced the administration's grandfathering regulations, saying "if health plans significantly raise copayments or deductibles, or significantly reduce benefits, for example just stop covering treatments like HIV/AIDS or cystic fibrosis, they lose their grandfather status." [U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, 6/14/10]
    Interim Final Rule On ACA, June 2010: Administration Estimates Some Plans Will Not Be Grandfathered Due To Regular Turnover In Insurance Markets. The interim final rule published in the Federal Register in June 2010 about the grandfathering rules cited research that showed the individual insurance market regularly saw heavy turnover each year, and that the administration's estimate of the amount of plans that would not be grandfathered was based on the regular turnover rate:
    The market for individual insurance is significantly different than that for group coverage. This affects estimates of the proportion of plans that will remain grandfathered until 2014. As mentioned previously, the individual market is a residual market for those who need insurance but do not have group coverage available and do not qualify for public coverage. For many, the market is transitional, providing a bridge between other types of coverage. One study found a high percentage of individual insurance policies began and ended with employer-sponsored coverage. More importantly, coverage on particular policies tends to be for short periods of time. Reliable data are scant, but a variety of studies indicate that between 40 percent and 67 percent of policies are in effect for less than one year. Although data on changes in benefit packages comparable to that for the group market is not readily available, the high turnover rates described here would dominate benefit changes as the chief source of changes in grandfather status. While a substantial fraction of individual policies are in force for less than one year, a small group of individuals maintain their policies over longer time periods. One study found that 17 percent of individuals maintained their policies for more than two years, while another found that nearly 30 percent maintained policies for more than three years. Using these turnover estimates, a reasonable range for the percentage of individual policies that would terminate, and therefore relinquish their grandfather status, is 40 percent to 67 percent. These estimates assume that the policies that terminate are replaced by new individual policies, and that these new policies are not, by definition, grandfathered. [Federal Register, 6/17/10]​
    NY Times In 2010: Administration Acknowledged That Some "Might Face Significant Changes In The Terms Of Their Coverage." The New York Times reported in June 2010 that the administration acknowledged that some "might face significant changes in the terms of their coverage":
    In issuing the rules, the administration said this was just one goal of the legislation, allowing people to "keep their current coverage if they like it." It acknowledged that some people, especially those who work at smaller businesses, might face significant changes in the terms of their coverage, and it said they should be able to "reap the benefits of additional consumer protections."​
    The law provides a partial exemption for certain health plans in existence on March 23, when Mr. Obama signed the legislation. Under this provision, known as a grandfather clause, plans can lose the exemption if they make significant changes in deductibles, co-payments or benefits.​
    About half of employer-sponsored health plans will see such changes by the end of 2013, the administration says in an economic analysis of the rules.​
    The rules allow employers and insurers to increase benefits. But, in a summary of the rules, the administration said, "Plans will lose their grandfather status if they choose to make significant changes that reduce benefits or increase costs to consumers." [The New York Times, 6/14/10]​
     
  13. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    Like what? No examples? How typical.
     
  14. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    No examples? You are a prime example of one of the stupid people I referred to! Good enough?
     
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    Interesting how everyone is defending BO for his lies, yet you even manage to prove how big his lies are. Yet somehow even Sebelius denies it.
     
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    yakpoo Well-Known Member

    An earlier group of healthcare "resisters"...

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