T minus 7 days before the devastation of Obamacare!!

Other than a handful of Washington dimocrats, have you ever heard anyone support Obamacare?

One week from today the exchanges are supposed to open but from what I'm reading no state seems to be prepared. At least 14 states are saying they won't be ready, a few have announced they are opting out & a couple can't get any insurance companies to participate.
So far, the ONLY promises that have been kept is the taxation part!

 

Then there are stories like this. This couple and their two sons are going to see an increase of $632 PER MONTH because of Obamacare! Democrats can be blamed for this train wreck, but it's going to negatively affect everyone including the low-information voters who keep voting the democrat/socialists into office.

Andy and Amy Mangione of Louisville, Ky. and their two boys are just the kind of people who should be helped by ObamaCare. But they recently got a nasty surprise in the mail.

"When I saw the letter when I came home from work," Andy said, describing the large red wording on the envelope from his insurance carrier, "(it said) 'your action required, benefit changes, act now.' Of course I opened it immediately."

It had stunning news. Insurance for the Mangiones and their two boys,which they bought on the individual market, was going to almost triple in 2014 --- from $333 a month to $965.

The insurance carrier made it clear the increase was in order to be compliant with the new health care law.

"This isn't a Cadillac plan, this isn't even a silver plan," Mangione said, referring to higher levels of coverage under ObamaCare.

"This is a high deductible plan where I'm assuming a lot of risk for my health insurance for my family. And nothing has changed, our boys are healthy-- they're young --my wife is healthy. I'm healthy, nothing in our medical history has changed to warrant a tripling of our premiums.

"Well I'm the one that does the budget,” said his wife. "Eventually I've got that coming down the pike that I gotta figure out what we're gonna cut what we're gonna do, to afford a $1,000 a month premium."

Their insurance company, Humana, declined to comment, but the notice to the Mangiones carried this paragraph:

" If your policy premium increased, you should know this isn't unique to Humana -- premium increases generally will occur industry-wide.

"Increases aren't based on your individual claims or changes in health status," it continued. "Many other factors go in to your premium including: ACA compliance, including the addition of new essential health benefits."

ACA, of course, is the abbreviation for the President's new law, the Affordable Care Act -- which for the Mangiones will be anything but affordable because the law adds a new tax on every insurance policy and requires a list of additional benefits the Mangiones didn’t want to pay for.

Robert Zirkelbach, spokesman for American Health Insurance Plans, which represents insurers,explained that "for people who currently choose to purchase a high deductible, low premium policy that's more affordable for them, they are now being required to add all these new benefits to their policy.

That," he says, "is also going to add to the cost of their health insurance premiums."

This comes amid a huge debate over whether ObamaCare will raise or lower insurance rates.
For the Mangiones, that answer is abundantly clear.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/09/23/one-man-obamacare-nightmare/?intcmp=HPBucket

 

Obamacare’s real danger for the GOP is that it will succeed
By Eugene Robinson, Published: September 23
To understand the crisis in Washington, tune out the histrionics and look at the big picture: Republicans are threatening to shut down the federal government — and perhaps even refuse to let the Treasury pay its creditors — in a desperate, last-ditch attempt to keep millions of Americans from getting health insurance.
Seriously. That’s what all the yelling and screaming is about. As my grandmother used to say, it’s hard to know whether to laugh or cry.

The GOP has tried its best to make Obamacare a synonym for bogeyman and convince people that it’s coming in the night to snatch the children. In fact, and I know this comes as a shock to some, Obamacare is not a mythical creature. It is a law, incorporating what were originally Republican ideas, that will make it possible for up to 30 million people now lacking health insurance to obtain it.

Officially, the law in question is the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. Republicans intended the term “Obamacare” to be mocking, which is perhaps why President Obama started using it with pride.
It is, indeed, an achievement of which the nation can be proud. About 48 million individuals in this country lacked health insurance in 2012, according to the Census Bureau, representing about 15 percent of the population. Other industrialized nations provide universal health care — and wonder if this is what we mean when we talk about American exceptionalism.

About 25 percent of people in households with annual incomes below $25,000 are uninsured, compared with just 8 percent in households earning more than $75,000. Do the working poor not deserve to have their chronic medical conditions treated as punishment for not making enough money?

Other rich countries provide truly universal care through single-payer systems of various kinds. Obama chose instead to model the Affordable Care Act after a program implemented on the state level by the Republican governor who became Obama’s opponent in the 2012 presidential election. Yes, before Obamacare there was Romneycare, a private-sector, free-market solution designed to be in accord with the GOP’s most hallowed principles.

But in the years between Mitt Romney’s tenure in Massachusetts and his presidential run, the Republican Party lost its way, or perhaps its mind. The party shows no serious interest in finding a GOP-friendly way to provide the uninsured with access to health care. Rather, it pursues two goals at any cost: opposing Obama no matter what he does, and making people see Obamacare as a failure.

For the radical far right, making health care more widely available through the existing network of insurers, most of them for-profit companies, is a giant leap toward godless socialism. These extremists hold outsize power in the GOP — enough to make sane Republican officials fear, with some reason, that anything short of massive resistance to Obamacare could lead to a primary challenge and a shortened career.

Some of Obamacare’s provisions are already in force and seem to be having the intended effect. For example, young adults are now allowed to stay on their parents’ health insurance policies until age 26. In 2009, 29.8 percent of those 19 through 25 were uninsured; in 2012, 27.2 percent lacked insurance, a modest but significant decline.

Now the central provisions of the Affordable Care Act are set to come into effect — the individual mandate, the insurance exchanges, the guarantee of coverage for those with preexisting conditions. Republicans scream that Obamacare is sure to fail. But what they really fear is that it will succeed.

That’s the reason for all the desperation. Republicans are afraid that Obamacare will not prove to be a bureaucratic nightmare — that Americans, in fact, will find they actually like it. The GOP fears that Obamacare will even be credited with slowing the rise of health-care costs to a more manageable rate. There are signs, in fact, that this “bending of the curve” is already taking place: Medical costs are still rising much faster than inflation but at the slowest rate in decades.

Keeping premiums under control will require persuading lots of young, healthy people to buy insurance — and thus, in effect, subsidize those who are older and sicker. That is why a group called Generation Opportunity, funded by the ultraconservative Koch brothers, plans to tour college campuses with disgusting ads in which a creepy Uncle Sam subjects a young woman to a pelvic examination.
The GOP message: Whatever you do, don’t buy health insurance. It may be — shudder — good for you.

 

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Hmmm...let's see...who to believe....Hmmm....an opinion piece from a notoriuos DC lib or the facts?
I'll go with the facts!
We've all read & seen the hundreds of examples of employers laying off workers, cutting hours & insurance premiums skyrocketing. What's good about that?
I was speaking with a friend, a dept chair at a local university & a diehard lib. He's all for a single payor, universal healthcare system but firmly believes Obamacare is a disaster & will go down in our history as the biggest mistake we've ever made. His criticism of Obamacare is that it comes from a place of partisan politics & not benevolence.

 

If it was going to be such a colossal failure, why wouldn't the Right-wing fanatics just let it happen and then win elections based on the total failure of the Democrat's policies?

Answer: Because they know the American people are going to like the new law and they are going to face a backlash for decades for all their lies and scare tactics when the law is implemented. I can't wait.

 

Let me guess. Business school?

 

Tell that to the Mangiones (see post above).

 

If it was going to be a failure? Look around! It already is!
Lies are being exposed, major components are being suspended, the exchanges aren't functioning, healthcare costs are skyrocketing, hospitals are eliminating programs, jobs/hours are being cut, there's been a mad dash in DC by the politicians to exempt themselves, the union support has turned into vocal opposition, the bureacracy is counting on people to self-report their eligibilty....should we go on?

 

In short, a train wreck:

WASHINGTON -- A senior Democratic senator who helped write President Barack Obama's health care law stunned administration officials Wednesday, saying openly he thinks it's headed for a "train wreck."​

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"I just see a huge train wreck coming down," Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont., told Obama's health care chief during a routine budget hearing that suddenly turned tense.​

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/17/max-baucus-obamacare_n_3101801.html

 

Paul Kruggman, Obama's pet economist, also admits Obamacare isn't sustainable without massive tax increases.

 

Lots of Republican lies sure, death panels, an abortion provision that does not exist, Obamacare will bankrupt the country, violate personal liberty, raise costs or ruin insurance for most Americans, and generally destroy American health care. And the biggest lie of course, defunding the government will stop Obamacare.

I do love your posts. I plan to throw them back in your face in the not too distant future. Not that you'll ever admit that you've been duped but the rest of us will be laughing at you as you and your silly dysfunctional party go straight into the dustbin of history. Bye-bye losers!

 

Lies like you can keep your current doctor? Costs will go down? Those lies?
While we are at it, you always manage to conveniently sidestep the subject of reduced hours & job cuts attributed to Obamacare. Why is that?

 

Obamacare EXPLICITLY covers abortion. Capps Amendment. Just had to correct Mr Toilet Paper Constitutions lies.

 

Keep your fingers crossed and it might not exist much longer. So far Hobby Lobby is winning their law suit and if they can win, other churches will have no difficulty winning.

 

Life saving drugs are only covered with a hefty co-pay, after a big deductible has been met yet birth control is covered 100% from day one.
The suggestion of Death Panels gets the libs all lathered up but in reality it will be BO-appointed bureacrats who determine who gets vital care, when they get it & the duration of the care not the healthcare professionals.

 

Employers have the freedom to do as they wish. I hope they push EVERYONE into the health care exchanges. The more the better the stronger the system becomes. Heck, maybe we will eventually get single payer. I sure hope so.

 

Hobby Lobby has churches? Go figure.

 

Are you actually admitting to this or did you have a little slip of the tongue (not meant to get clueless excited)?

This is obviously the long-term goal of Obamacare, right? Strip away the individuals right to decide for themselves, force them into the collective? That's nirvana, right? If it's healthcare today, what's next? Education? Finances? Career choice?

 

Health care professionals are not making those decisions now you naive dolt. Insurance companies decide what procedures you can have, how long you can stay in hospital, what meds are covered and which aren't, and which clinics you can be seen in. You just neglect to acknowledge this little fact because it is inconvenient. They are the ones that would not cover preexisting conditions forcing millions out of insurance coverage. They raise your premiums annually and pay billions to their CEOs. They have a 30% overhead cost. Why do these things not bother you? Too strange.