They Actually Have to Conduct Studies to Figure Out This Stuff?

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  1. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    Former Slavery Strongholds Harbor Majority Of Nation's Racists, Study Shows
    Posted: 09/20/2013 2:35 pm EDT | Updated: 09/20/2013 4:23 pm EDT

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    150 years has done little to shift anti-black attitudes in the some parts of the country, new analysis of census data and opinion polls shows.

    In what is believed to be the first report to quantitatively demonstrate the lasting effects of slavery on contemporary political attitudes in the American South, a team of political scientists from the University of Rochester examined party affiliations and views on race-related policies such as affirmative action of more than 39,000 southern whites.

    What they found: That a "slavery effect" persists among white Southerners who currently live in the Cotton Belt where slavery and the plantation economy thrived from the late 18th century into the 20th century. Residents of those counties are much more likely today to express more negative attitudes toward blacks than their fellow Southerners who live in nearby areas that had few slaves; are more likely to identify as Republican; and are more likely to express opposition to policies like affirmative action, the study authors concluded.

    Take a look at their county-by-county view of where slaves were concentrated in 1860, based on the U.S. census, and where they say racial resentment is most likely to persist today. Story continues below.

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    Examining data from nearly all of the 1,344 Southern counties in the Cotton Belt, researchers found that a 20 percent increase in the percentage of slaves in a county’s pre-Civil War population is associated with a 3 percent decrease in whites who identify as Democrats today and a 2.4 percent decrease in the number of whites who support affirmative action.

    “In political circles, the South’s political conservatism is often credited to 'Southern exceptionalism,' but the data shows that such modern-day political differences primarily rise from the historical presence of many slaves," said Matthew Blackwell, one of the study authors, expanding on the report's conclusion that without slavery, the South today might look fairly similar politically to the North.

    Read more of what Blackwell and his colleagues found and their explanation for how the "slavery effect" is able to persist into the 21st century, here.
     
  2. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Mr. Race Baiter at work. Does it make you feel better to blame someone else?
     
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  3. CoinOKC
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    Not according to the Obama administration:

    "Is it the government's submission that the citizens of the South are more racist than the citizens of the North?" John Roberts, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, asked that in February during oral arguments over the fate of the Voting Rights Act, a 1965 civil rights law. Donald Verrilli, the government's chief lawyer, said no. Not surprisingly, the Obama administration was not willing to assert that citizens in Southern states were statistically more likely to hold racist beliefs. Without making such a claim, though, it was harder for the government to defend the VRA's requirement that some states—but not others—seek federal approval (which lawyers call preclearance) before changing their voting laws.

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/06/south-more-racist-north
     
  4. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    And this has what to with this study? Let me help...NOTHING. But somehow everything comes back to the black guy for some "unracist" reason I suppose.
     
  5. CoinOKC
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    CoinOKC T R U M P

    What "black guy" are you talking about? I'm talking about the government's chief lawyer in a case before the Supreme Court.
     
  6. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Racism in the South is more overt but based on my experience (having both lived & worked above & below the Mason-Dixon line) racism exists equally in the North.
     
  7. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    None sense! Of course racism exists just about anyplace you go in this country but the south has perfected it. I work with two kinds of people from the south. Those who are racist but have to hide it and those that will tell you how engrained racism is in the south and how they will never live there again.

    The point of posting this wasn't to prove that the south is racist. We all know that already. The point was highlighted and pay particular attention to, "are more likely to identify as Republican". Another conclusion that probably didn't need an entire study.
     
  8. rlm's cents
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    Mr. Race Baiter,just what is none sense? As "as easily the highest educated person in this forum" (your exact words), I expect a lot better of you. And the point of your posting this was nothing more than to demean and insult your opposition because you have no fact to back up the other discussions.

    BTW, Mr. Race Baiter, only 5 of America's most segregated cities are in the South. Don't believe me? Look for yourself http://www.businessinsider.com/most-segregated-cities-census-maps-2013-4?op=1
     
  9. CoinOKC
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    Personally, I don't live in the traditional South. But, I would say that many Republicans live there simply to get away from ignorant, racist, elitist, socialist, communist, violent, low-information, northern liberals. Also, they probably live in the South in an attempt to avoid the psychotic murderers in high-crime areas like Chicago. Of course, areas in many Southern states have a low cost-of-living and this is appealing to financially adept Republicans.
     
  10. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    None sense, back at you! Your opinion is based on what? "2 kinds of people" with whom you have worked at some insignificant school in Chicago? At least in the south you know who the bigots are & what they believe...
     
  11. c jay
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    c jay Well-Known Member

    You do realize that you are talking about a part of the country that votes historically Democratic, the party of George Wallace and Lester Maddux. Democrats that authored the "Jim Crow" laws. The party that quashed the Civil Rights act of 1867. I am happy to see that the Democratic party has made some progress over the years and were willing to sign off on the Civil Rights act of 1964. It is my hope that democrats will catch up with the view points that "radical" Republicans have maintained for well over 150 years, that race and skin color be relegated to the status of height and eye color, and treated as nothing more than a cosmetic difference. Then you will have a clue.
     
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  12. c jay
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    FYI, Affirmative Action was an executive order by Republican President Richard M. Nixon. Can I hear you singing his praises?
     
  13. arizonaJack

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    Democrats FILLIBUSTERED the civil rights act of 1964
     
  14. IQless1
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    IQless1 trump supporters are scum

    1964 was 49 years ago. Significant changes have occurred in that period of time.

    For one thing, the Democrats of today do not like the Southern Democrats of the 1950s, just like we don't like the republicans of today. Both verge on being considered "evil", in our view....some moments more than others, of course, depending on the atrocities each has committed at certain points in time.

    But, that's not what you really want to think about, you'd rather make a few empty innuendos, a baseless comment here, an unsupported claim there and leave it at that, rather than take a good long hard look at yourself and your party.

    That's why your party is going to ultimately lose, because it's too busy heckling it's perceived opponents to notice that people are not as dumb as they used to be, back in the day.
     
  15. c jay
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    "1964 was 49 years ago. Significant changes have occurred in that period of time."

    Not according to your lead article.

    So, democrats in the past were evil, but are now better. I am so glad to hear that. When you quit categorizing people by race and start seeing them as fellow human beings, no different than you, please let me know. Americans are unique, we come in all sizes shapes and colors, we come from all corners of the world, and it doesn't matter how you got here or why.
     
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  16. clembo

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    Racism. What a wonderful thing.

    News flash. It exists, it has existed and It will continue to exist. Period.
    Political affiliations need not apply.

    I suppose Jack may be able to relate to what I'm going to post better than most having grown up in Detroit.

    I have lived near Gary, IN all of my life.

    My parents grew up on the South side of Chicago. Neighborhoods changed big time.

    In the 1940s Gary was a great place to go according to mom. Take the train, see a movie and have a great time. Those days are long gone.

    Now I have the "pleasure" of meeting people around my mom's age that actually grew up in Gary.

    Talk about a bunch of racists! Damn niggers ruined everything. They say this as they look around to make sure that only whites are in the store.
    Like just because we're white we TOTALLY agree. Stupidity in action big time.

    I just keep my mouth shut. They generally learned this from their parents and in many cases have passed it on to their kids.

    The cycle continues.

    It really doesn't matter where you are when you get down to it.
     
  17. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Hey clembo, I guess that's the difference between bigots in the North & those in the South...yours look around to see whose there while the ones I ran across in Miss. & La. didn't care who was around.
     
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  18. CoinOKC
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    That's what you call a "Look Around Racist".
     
  19. IQless1
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    IQless1 trump supporters are scum

    It's not my article, I didn't post it.

    Your argument says that nothing's changed. I disagee, a lot has. What used to be Southern Democrats is now Southern republicans, for example. The reason they switched parties was because the Democrats in the North were supporting racial equality.
     
  20. rlm's cents
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    When did Maddox become a Republican? Byrd? Etc.
     

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