When did the crisis of 2 years ago end and the one of this year begin? BTW, you might want to watch this (Huffington dated today, but who knows with them) http://videos.huffingtonpost.com/politics/john-kerry-syrias-assad-has-got-to-go-517682840. Are you saying Kerry does not speak for the current administration? OOPS, here it is dated 5-29-13.
Nation is a liar plain and simple. Big military threat my ass. Unbelievably small is what Kerry said. Obama fooked up and his lying minions are attempting to carry the water. BO got himself bitchslapped in front of the world and the world knows it.
Did you decide to jump on the stupid train headed to crazy town because they missed their village idiot? We didn't give a damn about the Syrian Civil War until chemical weapons were used. That is when the current crisis began. All administrations have had it out for Assad. That has not changed in years. The point here which little Davy seems to want run from is that Obama never threatened military action to get rid of Assad. NEVER! You idiots simply tune into the idiot box called FOX and believe all stupidity you hear.
So Kerry was going to get Assad "to go" by asking him nicely? Pretty please with sugar and a cherry on top? What the hell do you think Kerry meant for us to do?
What Tweedledee and Tweedledum can't figure out on their own is that it is against the law to assassinate a foreign leader in this country. Even if an administration plans to do it, they certainly don't announce it. No person employed by or acting on behalf of the United States Government shall engage in, or conspire to engage in, assassination.
Maybe I missed it, but just where did Kerry say "assassinate"? There are lots of "got-to-go"'s beside assassinations. But there are not many in Syria that do not involve force in some way, shape, or form. I would not pretend to know which methodology Kerry would prefer or was referring to.
Now you've come full circle to my point. Removed? That doesn't sound like little Davy is saying that we asked him to leave now does it? Why don't you guys just admit for once in your stupid lives that Obama resolved this chemical weapons crisis without firing a shot? He brilliantly maneuvered Assad to give up his chemical weapons or face the threat of U.S. military action. I don't care what FOX tells you, this is by far the solution that Americans wanted not war. Now even Iran is beginning to come around thanks to this diplomatic maneuver. When will you hatred motivated clowns see reality for what it is instead of always giving into your deeply flawed ideology? Never is my guess.
Let's see... the last time Obama said a foreign leader "had to go" we all know how that turned out. This is what Obama said... President Obama said today that Libyan leader Muammar el-Qaddafi has lost legitimacy and "must step down from power and leave" immediately. Obama spoke at a news conference where he also said he had approved the use of U.S. military aircraft to help evacuate refugees fleeing the violence in Libya. At a brief news conference with visiting Mexican President Felipe Calderon, Obama said, "It's time for Qaddafi to go."http://www.nationaljournal.com/obama-says-libya-s-qaddafi-must-go-20110303 ... and this is how it turned out: View attachment 1989 So, Little Joe, stop spouting your bullshit about it being "against the law to assassinate a foreign leader...". Of course, it's "the law", but do you really think Obama obeys it? Ask Muammar Qhadaffi.
And did we kill him? Nooooooooo! He was killed by his own people. Too easy! Let's face it! Obama handled this Syria crisis perfectly. What did we lose? We got Syria to sign the chemical weapons ban and agreed to put their chemical weapons under international control and they for the first time admitted having them. I'd rather a middle east dictator than a radical Muslim country, wouldn't you? HOW EXACTLY IS THIS ALL A FAILURE????? Somebody answer that for me. Anyone? Really. Anyone?
I have come full circle?!?!?! You started with; We produced the tape of him saying exactly that. Then you said; But you could never answer why today's crisis was other than the same crisis from 2 years ago - AND I produced a clip of Kerry saying the same thing "Assad has got to go" from just 4 months ago. Maybe your English is not the same as our English, but how is "removed" different than "removed", or different than "has got to go" and just exactly where did either I or David ever say that Obama did not call "for Assad to be removed"? Just where have either of us changed one iota of what we said? Now in my English, you have done absolutely everything you can not to admit that you made a mistake.
As usual, Mr Nation is lying. Here's the timeline. Kerry offered up the idea of turning over the chemical weapons to the international community, then poo poos it saying it coule never happen and the Whitehouse throws Kerry under the bus saying he was off script and distanced Obama from Kerrys comments. Putin steps in like an adult, makes a deal happen and Obama and his minions try to take Putins credit. Simple as that. Anything else is a deliberate lie.
Yes, this is the gullible man's version of events I agree. You think this was just dumb luck but this kind of thing does not happen that way. What exactly did Putin get out of this deal? What did we end up losing in this deal? You idiots can't see the forest for the trees. Obama admitted talking to Putin at the G8 about exactly this type of deal. Oh you poor misguided bastards. You think you have the world by the balls while yours are in a sack held by the likes of FOX, Limbaugh, and Beck. You poor naive SOB's.
Ah! Avoid the question and hope it will go away! Why today's crisis was other than the same crisis from 2 years ago? Maybe your English is not the same as our English, but how is "removed" different than "removed", or different than "has got to go"? Just exactly where did either I or David ever say that Obama did not call "for Assad to be removed"? Just where have either of us changed one iota of what we said? Why can you not to admit that you made a mistake?
After about 3 posts, you just starting talking in circles about insignificant nonsense and I tend to move on to people that actually have a point to articulate. If you want to take this as vindication of the nonsense you spew, be my guest.
...or you couyld simply be honest with yourself... BO called for Assad's removal yet he's still in power. BO drew a "line in the sand" and it was crossed without consequence. BO called for military action in Syria and it was rejected. All of this occuring over the course of several years, as you admitted. Putin steps in & reaches a diplomatic solution over the course of a weekend. BO was made to look like a chump, an ineffective, weak little chump.