Will There Be Justice For Delbert Belton?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by CoinOKC, Aug 23, 2013.

  1. clembo

    clembo Well-Known Member

    OK but to the point that a black on white crime is not a problem?

    It's the wording rlm. I can look at your statement and interpret it as that ANYONE you consider a liberal holds these beliefs.
    So I'll ask do you really believe THAT?

    I'm white and have a problem with it and some here REALLY label me as a liberal.

    Guy Medley made a good point BOTH sides are biased. A no brainer to me.

    To use blanket statements though has always been ignorant to me and I think most here know it.

    When it comes to murder I reckon deep down MOST people aren't too fond of it. Other crimes as well for that matter.

    I can make anything a blanket statement based on my own beliefs, views or even misconceptions if I'm rabid enough.

    As an example I recently started a thread about Al Jazeera America. Wanted to know if anyone watched it or would basically.
    I got two responses. Both from "liberals".

    Based on two responses on a tiny forum should I state that "liberals will at least give it a chance whereas Republicans won't even consider it"?

    I could and it wouldn't be ignorant. It would be plain stupid.

    Still, being on the internet someone might latch onto it and run with. A stupid statement would become fact to many.
    SCARY!

    I would see it as beyond over the top.

    I've never been a big fan of either. They have meddled too much IMHO. However, I can't see either of them celebrating a murder.

    Perhaps we should start a thread about this. It's an interesting statement rlm.

    Problem here is how long would it stay on track?;)
     
  2. IQless1
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    IQless1 trump supporters are scum

    “Let us consider that we are all partially insane. It will explain us to each other, it will unriddle many riddles, it will make clear and simple many things which are involved in haunting and harassing difficulties and obscurities now..."

    "That is a simple rule, and easy to remember. When I, a thoughtful and unbiased Presbyterian, examine the Koran, I know that beyond any question every Mohammedan is insane; not in all things, but in religious matters. When a thoughtful and unbiased Mohammedan examines the Westminster Catechism, he knows that beyond any question I am spiritually insane. I cannot prove to him that he is insane, because you never can prove anything to a lunatic--for that is part of his insanity and the evidence of it. He cannot prove to me that I am insane, for my mind has the same defect that afflicts his. All democrats are insane, but not one of them knows it; none but the republicans and mugwumps know it. All the republicans are insane, but only the democrats and mugwumps can perceive it.The rule is perfect; in all matters of opinion our adversaries are insane. When I look around me I am often troubled to see how many people are mad [gives long list]... This should move us to be charitable toward one anothers lunacies.”

    Mark Twain - 1907
     
  3. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    I never said black on white crime was not a problem. What I said was that most media and liberals ignore it. It is like dog bites man. Happens. Not news. Man bites dog. That makes the news. Except in the case of black on white crime and even more so black on black crime, it is significantly detrimental to a whole bunch of Americans. Still, all you hear about are the occasional white on black crimes. Probably 90% of America knows Trayvon, but I will bet 99% of America cannot name a single person of the 2000 (or whatever the number is) of the Chicagoan murdered while Trayvon was in the news. Yet somehow I consider the 2000 2000 times as important as Trayvon. And then there is Washington, Detroit, LA, etc. And NYC where they started to get a handle on crime - until the judge ruled it unconstitutional?

    Then after 2 years of Travon where virtually everyone directly said it was not race based, but Sharpton, Jackson, NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, CNN, Teddy, clueless all said it was racist. Now lets see how much we hear about the racist killing in OK. The baby shot in Georgia. Belton! Would you care to bet that Trayvon gets more news play than all three of those and the Chicago murders PUT TOGETHER. And you can even throw in most of the rest of the crime in America. Now what is wrong with that scenario?
     
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  4. CoinOKC
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    So true. I wonder how the media would have treated that story had Trayvon been Latino or white. Or had Zimmerman been black. I suspect we never would have even heard of Trayvon Martin or George Zimmerman.
     
  5. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    Let me just sum up the efforts of the Right-wing media machine that is being parroted here by, well you all know who is doing it so...

    Fox, Drudge, Breitbart and all the rest have all been on a quest for the holy grail which in this case is a black criminal and a white victim of some criminal activity to highlight and say, "See, blacks are targeting whites". First they tried to use the beating of a white kid on a school bus as an example of whites being the victims of targeted black violence and failed to convince anyone other than their own already convinced audience that whites were the real victims here. Then along came the horrific Chris Lane shooting and Fox again started beating the racial drums of blacks killing whites. In fact, Fox and other Right-wing media outlets went as far posting pictures of the "Three black teenagers" and even asked in a White House Press briefing what their reaction was to the three black teenagers killing of Chris Lane. The problem here is that of the three teenagers, one was black, one was bi-racial (one black parent and one white parent), and the other was white. The only reason these teenagers were even caught was because they planned to shoot a black classmate and waited outside of his house until his father called the police and reported them. What do you know, a black hero Fox will never tell you about?
    Now you have to wonder why Fox and the rest of the Right-wing media choose to shine bright spotlights on some crime while not on other crime and asking the rest of us why the mainstream media isn't as outraged as they are about crimes that are fairly routine compared to other crimes.
    What we see in this forum is the parroting of the Right-wing agenda of reporting only black criminals and white victims in order to both scare white people and convince them that whites are the real victims of black criminals when any crime statistic proves that blacks are the overwhelming victims of crime themselves.
    This cynical attempt to scare whites is being demonstrated daily on any Right-wing media outlet and you will undoubtedly see any story involving black criminals and white victims highlighted repetitively but virtually nothing about blacks as victims of crimes for the foreseeable future. You are being played.
     
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    So, Teddy, you feel that the murders in Chicago deserve no coverage because the perpetrators were not mostly white. And Christopher Lane deserves no coverage because he was white. And Delbert Belton deserves no coverage because he was white - oh, and a war hero. And Antonio Santiago deserves not coverage because he was not black and he was not even old enough to know white from black. Maybe that is why black crime is so high - because the media ignores it. Id does not fit their objectives.
     
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  7. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    What your pea-sized brain has to realize is that murders happen every day in this country. It is how they are covered that dictates how people will react to them. Right-wing media is ONLY interested in crimes that involve black perpetrators and white victims. ALL murders matter but emphasizing some over others is a special Right-wing talent. They know what they are doing. It is people like you they are targeting and quite successfully I might add. You've fallen for it hook, line, and sinker. Maybe you can tell me why the murders you've fixated on are any different from all the other murders that happen every single day in this country?
     
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Sure, Teddy. That is why Fox covered Trayvon - honestly. That is why they are covering Christopher Lane. (According to you, that was not "black perpetrators and white victims".) That is why I keep hearing about the Chicago murders on Fox. That is why I keep hearing about Benghazi on Fox. Those really were murders. That is why I hear about Fast and Furious on Fox.
     
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Oh, and they are covering Jody Arias ad nauseam IMO.
     
  10. JoeNation
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    Didn't think you could come up with an answer and of course I was right.
     
  11. CoinOKC
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    Hey, National Socialist Joe, you haven't answered the question I asked in the OP.

    Do you blame the flashlight?

    I really don't expect an honest answer from you and I doubt you'll give one. But, it's worth a try. Without spin, without double-talk, without a forked-tongue, without hypocrisy, without equivocation, without evasion and without pussyfooting around will you at least attempt to answer this really simple question?
     
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    I was assuming that was a rhetorical question. I guess you cannot listen to real news;
    Lane - "I was bored"
    Belton - A 90 year old war hero beaten to death. You figure out which was not news worthy.
    Santiago - A baby shot because the mother had not money to be robbed
    Chicago - Isn't that even more self-evident than the others.

    And without checking, I will bet that all or nearly all of the perpetrators of these crimes come from fatherless homes. When the government pays mothers to have more children, that is an unintended side affect.
     
  13. CoinOKC
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    No one is trying to scare anyone, you dolt. Part of journalism is what is known as reporting the news. You're unfamiliar with that since you keep your nose buried in liberal opinion outlets where the only reporting that's presented is biased dogma. Pointing out the hypocrisy of the liberal media is a never-ending task. Their bias came through loud and clear when they trumpeted their opinion on the Trayvon Martin case, but have remained strangely silent on the case of Christopher Lane which is, arguably, just as newsworthy.

    Since when did you start referring to a person with one "black" parent and one "white" parent as "bi-racial". Obama had one parent who was "black" and one who was "white" and you've referred to Obama as "black" as long as I've listened to your drivel. So make up your mind: Do you think Obama is "black" or is he "bi-racial"?
     
  14. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    You are 100% wrong about that. The only thing that motivates Righties is FEAR. The scary black thug is how an unarmed 17-year old teenager was portrayed as he was murdered for walking home from the store. Three black teenagers was how Lane's killers were portrayed. Whites as victims of blacks is the underlying message you are too damn dumb to figure out. I suppose wanting to believe in the black thug predisposes your type to buying into this crap in the first place. The Right-wing media propaganda machine sure knows who they are dealing with.
     
  15. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    I just found this on YouTube. I explains perfectly what Fox and other Right-wing media propagandists are trying to do by bringing race into the conversation. It looks pirated so it will probably get taken down soon.
     
  16. CoinOKC
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    CoinOKC T R U M P

    You've GOT to be joking! Do you think it's FOX who is trying to bring race into the conversation? That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard! Do you not think that MSNBC, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and the left-wing media AREN'T trying to bring race into the conversation? Really?

    Also, do you not feel like answering my question (see above)?
     
  17. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    Why would I do that? :rolleyes:
     
  18. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    All this to defend what Colin Powell described this way...

    Gen. Colin Powell slammed the Republican Party Sunday for what he calls a “dark vein of intolerance” running through it, saying members of the GOP “still look down on minorities” and that the party needs to change, or it’s “going to be in trouble.”
     
  19. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    I guess another Republican sees the Republican Party for what it is.
     
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    For someone who says;
    . you sure have a preconceived idea of what they are talking about. I think that is called prejudice.

    BTW, the police released the report that Lane's attackers were 3 blacks.
     
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