Income inequality takes off under Obama!!

Discussion in 'Politics' started by David, Jul 31, 2013.

  1. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

  2. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    You don't even hear Repukes utter the phrase "middle class" but here we have a Repuke chastising our president for bring up the problems the middle class is facing as if because he calls attention to the issue he owns the problem. I'd like to know what you'd like to see him do differently. Ignore the problem like the Repukes do?
     
  3. rlm's cents
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    It might be a good start if he would do something - anything - to help the economy.
     
  4. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    Hey, didn't you see it? He changed the calculations so his economic numbers aren't as bad as we experienced...er....I mean we thought they were.
     
  5. JoeNation
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    Tell the House Republicans. They have passed ZERO jobs bills. The president can sign them but he can't pass them.

    And there is still this question.

     
  6. JoeNation
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    An example...

    The Republican Party is now paralyzed

    There was a time, about two summers ago, when Republicans in Congress opposed the president for a reason. The reason wasn’t exactly an honorable or stirring one, but at least it had a logic to it. The thinking, reportedly articulated by Paul Ryan among others, went a little something like this: Any grand bargain, no matter how tilted to the right wing, would only help Obama win reelection. But all-out intransigence, when paired with a weak economy and looming debt, would make Obama look ineffectual, weak, and in over his head. And that was the way back to 1600 Penn.
    But then Mitt Romney happened, and we all know how that went.
    Cut to yesterday, more than two years later, and depressingly little has changed. There Obama stands; still president, still trying, and still finding no serious partner with whom to bargain. But whereas the original grand bargain was truly sweeping in its ambitions, trading (too few) tax hikes for (too many) cuts to social insurance programs like Medicare and Social Security, this latest iteration of what some have called the president’s white whale is far more modest. And yet Republican resistance is, if anything, even firmer.
    This time around, Obama is essentially asking to trade a cut to corporate tax rates in exchange for greater investment in jobs programs and public infrastructure. It’s a perfectly sensible deal, too, one in which each side gets something they’ve long wanted, and each side gives the other something they’d, in a perfect world, probably rather not. Needless to say, Republicans hate it.
    “I don’t think [Obama’s] been acting in good faith. I really don’t,” Senator Orrin Hatch, Utah’s hard-right senior senator, told Roll Call. Speaker Boehner’s spokesman was likewise negatively inclined, calling the proposal a means to allow “President Obama to support President Obama’s position on taxes and President Obama’s position on spending, while leaving small businesses and American families behind.” Other Republican comments were much the same, with the identical combination of airy dismissal and overzealous focus on Obama himself, rather than on his proposal.
     
  7. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    ...and yet, Obamacare was passed with ZERO Republican support, very little popular support and less than full democrap support...
    My question has long been, if BO could get Obamacare passed, given these "obstacles" how could any of his bills ever be blocked by anyone?
     
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Just because you don't agree with what the Republicans have passed does not mean it is not a jobs bill. MOST believe that repealing Obamacare is a jobs bill. Obviously you do not.

    And again I ask;
     
  9. JoeNation
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    Most ridiculous statement you've made and that is saying something. What jobs are being killed by Obamacare specifically?
    The republican controlled House of Reps refuses to bring bills to an up or down vote and the Senate Republicans filibuster everything requiring a super majority which the Dems do not have. So you tell us the total number given those realities. Do you actually have a point to this inane question?
     
  10. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    ...and yet, Obamacare was passed with ZERO Republican support, very little popular support and less than full democrap support...
    My question has long been, if BO could get Obamacare passed, given these "obstacles" how could any of his bills ever be blocked by anyone?
     
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Try actually looking and you may find that the road block in the Senate is something (or specifically someone) else and its initials are HR.

    I will ask my question slightly different this time. Just how many bills has the House passed and the Senate has not even bothered to bring to the floor? BTW, if they are not brought to the floor, the Republicans cannot Filibuster.
     
  12. IQless1
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    IQless1 trump supporters are scum

    Uh huh.

    A republican nut insinuates the increased income disparity among Americans over the years as being Obama's fault.

    It's the typical republican bs which ignores all other sources of information and history in general in order to focus solely on two points: Increased income disparity and Obama being president, as if that proves their point. Only idiots believe in such obvious drivel, and only a right-wing partisan fool would actually state such a link anywhere, ever.

    But, some republicans are just that special. :oops:
     
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  13. JoeNation
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    EXACTLY!!! Exclamation point, Exclamation point, Exclamation point, Exclamation point,....

    That is about as deeply as they think about anything. Ask them to explain the income disparity that has been increasing for decades when Obama wasn't even in politics and they have no explanation except that Obama rails against it so it must be his fault. Logic? Lunacy is more like it.
     
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Come on! Just say it! It is all Bush's fault, right?
     
  15. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    Obama had a filibuster proof majority for a total of 72 days. Why do you keep asking the same question when it has a simple answer that you just don't want to hear? That's my question.
     
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  16. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    "Research by University of California economist Emmanuel Saez shows that since the Obama recovery started in June 2009, the average income of the top 1% grew 11.2% in real terms through 2011.
    The bottom 99%, in contrast, saw their incomes shrink by 0.4%.
    As a result, 121% of the gains in real income during Obama's recovery have gone to the top 1%. By comparison, the top 1% captured 65% of income gains during the Bush expansion of 2002-07, and 45% of the gains under Clinton's expansion in the 1990s."

    A "Republican nut"?
    You know, I heard BO on the radio today justifying the condition of the middle class by claiming "hey, the middle class was hurting when I took over". After 4 1/2 years shouldn't things have gotten better, not worse? Wasn't he elected on the promise of improving things in the country?
     
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  17. David

    David Proud Enemy of Hillary

    The best thing BO could do for our economy is to just stay away from it. Everything he's done has hurt waaayyyy more than it's helped.
    Confidence would skyrocket if BO would just shut up & leave it alone.
     
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  18. JoeNation
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    He gets an answer and chooses to ignore it because then he loses another BS talking point. I don't really see any point in responding to any of these Right-wing nuts questions since they already think they know the answer.
     
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    he had it long enough to kill the economy with Obamcare. How much longer does he need?
     
  20. JoeNation
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    JoeNation The ReichWing Abuser

    You can respond with this type of drivel but you can't tell us which jobs Obama is killing and how with Obamacare? I think that you never knew anything other than the talking point to begin with. Ya Think? :eek:
     

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