Seems Like Industrial Plants Are Blowing Up All Over the Red States...Hum?

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  1. JoeNation
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    Lack of regulation maybe??

    At least 30 injured in La. plant explosion

    STACEY PLAISANCE, AP
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    GEISMAR, La. (AP) — Ambulances and helicopters took at least 30 people from a burning chemical plant after an explosion Thursday in Louisiana, officials said.
    Early tests did not indicate dangerous levels of any chemicals around the plant in Geismar, about 20 miles southeast of Baton Rouge, but area residents were told to remain indoors with doors and windows closed, said Jean Kelly, spokeswoman for the state Department of Environmental Quality.
    She said helicopters took three or four people Thursday from the plant owned by The Williams Companies Inc., and ground ambulances took 30. Kelly did not have other details about injuries.
    Seven victims were taken to Baton Rouge General Medical Center and more were expected, the hospital said in a news release on its website.
    Workers scrambled over gates and ran from the plant when they heard the explosion, which shook the ground and was followed by a "ball of fire," Daniel Cuthbertson, a fuel truck operator with CBI construction based in Taft, Calif., said later at a police roadblock.
    The company said in a news release on its website that the flow of chemicals to the fire had been cut off by 10 a.m.
    Louisiana State Police Capt. Doug Cain said the explosion occurred around 8:30 a.m. Thursday at the plant. It makes ethylene and propylene — highly flammable gases that are basic building blocks in the petrochemical industry.
    A thick plume of black smoke rose from the plant. At a roadblock several miles away, where family members waited anxiously to hear about loved ones, flames were easily visible above the trees.
    Kelly said an ethylene fire at ground level reportedly was waning several hours after the explosion.
     
  2. rlm's cents
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    Yeah, Blanco had more than her share of problems.
     
  3. CoinOKC
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    Thats an awfully big "maybe". Do you have any reason to believe this plant was not subjected to standard regulation?
     
  4. JoeNation
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    Only that it was located in a red state. You know how they are when it comes to regulations. You have to admit, we do seem to be seeing a pattern here. I guess more plants and more time will tell the tale. :rolleyes: Just sayin'.
     
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  5. CoinOKC
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    OK, so you have nothing. Typical.
     
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  6. JoeNation
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    Sorry, I don't actually have more smoking holes in the ground for you. But keep your eyes peeled, I'm sure you'll see one in the neighborhood eventually. :p
     
  7. Takiji

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    Hey they're just workers. There are plenty more where they came from. And some jobs, you know, are just more dangerous than others. If you want physical safety you need to go into banking or something.
     
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    And I will bet hey deserved to die. They were probably just Democrats.
     
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  9. CoinOKC
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    FINALLY! You finally get how Obama is creating jobs!
     
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  11. Guy Medley

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    I'm all for safety in the workplace, but many seem to get 'regulation' and 'safety' mixed up, or put into the same boat. Industry regulation is not safety. It is something put into place after the fact...usually a freak accident that has never occurred before and probably wouldn't again with or without government regulations in place. I work in a government imposed regulations heavy industry, and of the thousands of such regulations, less than 1% have proven effective in making the workplace safer. Thats not to say some aren't beneficial. But to assume more regulations are needed every time there is an accident isn't productive thinking, and rarely changes circumstances.
     
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    BINGO!

    ISO14001?
     
  13. Takiji

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    The likely case is not that a new law is needed, but that an existing one was ignored or circumvented.
     
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    Or the contractors did something wrong, or the "safety rules" were so cumbersome as to make them unsafe (yes, that really happens), or a disgruntled employee got his revenge, or a piece of equipment just plane failed, or a sink hole opened up, etc.
     
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  15. Takiji

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    Or god just decided he was bored.
     
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    No, I doubt Obama had anything to do with it.
     
  17. Takiji

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    You're boringly predictable. Obama all day, every day. You see nothing else. Except maybe Hillary.

    Well I guess it keeps you out of trouble, and your Obama this, Obama that, Obama everything, everywhere, approach to life does not require any thought on your part. A not insignificant advantage under the circumstances. (How IS Davy, btw?). Why don't you go find some pictures of Obama to illustrate your obsession? What's an obsession without pictures?
     
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    You missed Holder! Oh, and Pelosi, Holder, Reid, Holder, Schultz, Holder, Frank, Holder, Biden, Holder, Kerry, Holder, Gore, Holder, etc. Lets not forget Holder and the Attorney General.
     
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  19. IQless1
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    Regulations also make it harder for employers to fire you on a whim, but that doesn't stop larger employers from using creative ways to fire workers who are not wanted anymore. Injuries and paper-trails are an epidemic, IMO.

    I've lost count of how many people have been fired after an injury at work. I know it happens in my area's medium-sized grocery stores (stores with about a hundred employees or so), but it was the larger retail stores in the area that perfected ways to create paper trails leading to a legal dismissal.

    I can't think of any employer around my area, with more than a dozen or so people under their employ, who doesn't practice the art of the paper trail firing. They look at the potential lawsuits an injured worker brings by continuing to work and they immediately give the worker tasks they had never had to do before, tasks they are not suited for. When the worker "fails to perform" they write it up in a log. Eventually they call the worker into an office and say "Sorry, you gotta go, you're just not a good worker."

    I had one supervisor, a decent person, who eventually became the general manager. I told her "Now you gotta go evil", and she hit me and laughed. I wasn't joking. Sure enough, after every trip she took to the main office she had a terribly shocked look on her face, and I knew she had been told to do something she wasn't comfortable with, and that was creating paper trails.

    After about a year, and multiple summonings to the main office, she learned how to suppress that anxiety and viola, workers began leaving involuntarily en mass.

    Who left? Workers who had been on the payroll too long, workers who had had injuries (no serious ones), and workers who voiced an opinion. What's left there now are the older ass-kissers and hoards of new workers, young teens and twenty somethings.

    The general rule is: The bigger the company, the more it's in the best interest for workers to keep their nose down, shut-up and heaven help you should you get injured on the job.
     
  20. Guy Medley

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    We're unionized at my place of employment (except for management) so we never have to deal with that. Thats not to say we don't get blamed for everything. Lightning could strike our locomotive and burn it to the ground and we'd get blamed. But, not fired. It's easier for the company to place blame on us because we aren't held publicly liable (in other words I can't be sued if I run someone over at work), than it is for them to be held accountable for anything that happens.
     

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