Coweta Intermediate High School Student Reportedly Commits Suicide In Bathroom

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  1. JoeNation
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    Another dead teenager thanks to guns...

    Authorities in Oklahoma responded Monday morning to Coweta Intermediate High School after a ninth grade student reportedly committed suicide in a bathroom.

    The school superintendent confirmed the reports, according to News On 6. A press conference is scheduled for this afternoon.

    The school was placed on lockdown, according to KJRH.

    All ninth grade students were sent to the high school gym for parents to pick them up.

    Coweta is city of approximately 10,000 people located 25 miles southeast of Tulsa.

    Jeff Holmes, Superintendent of Coweta Schools, sent out a phone alert to parents Monday morning, according to News On 6.

    "I regret to inform you that we have a tragic incident at our intermediate high school today," Holmes said in the message. "All 9th grade students have been moved to the high school gymnasium where they will be able to be checked out from the northwest lobby by a parent at this time. All other schools will remain in session throughout today."

    Fox23 reports that there was not an armed guard at the school, according to police.

    UPDATE: At a 2 p.m. news conference, Holmes said the student died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. He did not release the student's name. Holmes would not speculate on what drove the student to commit suicide.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/...chool-suicide_n_2615901.html?utm_hp_ref=crime
     
  2. CoinOKC
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    It's sometimes difficult to say what drives a person to commit suicide. However, 90% of people who die from suicide have one or more psychiatric disorders. Catching the disorder early makes suicide less likely. Unfortunately, no one caught this young man's psychiatric problems in time. At the time he committed suicide, it appears he was quite ready and willing to go through with the act by whatever means necessary.
     
  3. IQless1
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    ...and that death will not be the last. :(
     
  4. David

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    ...and another case of a lib exploiting a tragedy to advance his political agenda.

    We had a similar tragedy around here, over the holidays, where 2 kids made a suicide pact & hung themselves. Should we call for a ban on rope?
     
  5. CoinOKC
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    Probably, yes. They wouldn't have been able to kill themselves otherwise. No way. No how.
     
  6. Stujoe

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    A tragedy but I just see suicide as a mental health issue and not a gun issue. Look at Japan. No guns so people jump off of buildings and jump in front of trains. I think if someone is really concerned about suicide then they would be push for mental health access, reducing bullying, etc. Rarely does a suicide happen without some kind of warning or signs.
     
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  7. JoeNation
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    You only hear the argument that gun deaths are unimportant because people die in car accidents from idiots like we have here. That same stupid rationale says that any death by any other means accidental or intentional justifies and exonerates the massive number of gun deaths in this country. Guns simply are deadlier and that I why they exist. They are the most efficient killing tool ever invented and widely distributed in society. Gun nuts cannot see this but they will never be comvinced by me or anyone else because their comfort and security is only as a result of the gun they cuddle up to every night. I think they are cowards. They live in fear of the unlikely, they drool over the Rambo storyline, and they are unable to see the harm they do to society because they are so blindede by their own fear.
    Wanye Lapierre is their chief spokeman and even FOX put that nut in his place. They are no different than him. If FOX won't even give you a pass, you must really be a nut.
     
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  8. David

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    So, lil' joe moen, are you now calling for the end of private gun ownership? I ask this simply because, in the past, you have denied you & your ilk favored a total ban of firearms. This little rant sounds like you might.
     
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  9. Themistokles480

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    I'm in favor of a ban on public restrooms, those places are dangerous from a biological perspective, and now people are letting off live rounds in them!?
     
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  10. IQless1
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    I have no doubt that suicides would occur regardless of the presence of a firearm. I also have no doubt that the presence of a firearm simplifies the act for some, emboldening them to come to the decision to end their lives.

    That, coupled with accidental deaths, is enough reason for me to reflect on the availability of firearms in America, though it may not be enough of a reason for everyone, particularly those who resist any thoughts, any inkling, of the negative associations with gun-ownership.

    Together with deaths caused by police actions and those from outright murder, suicides and accidental deaths (due to the availability of firearms) should not be ignored. If anything, they deserve even more attention.
     
  11. Stujoe

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    I think there is a pretty simple reason guns are used in suicides. They are a good tool for the job. As is a rope. Which is probably why suffocation is the second most common way to commit suicide.

    Suicides are caused by mental health issues. Unless you address those, you are pissing in the wind.
     
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  12. rlm's cents
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    Guns may be a good tool for the job, but they are far from the only. Japan has 0.6 guns per 100 people (USA is 90 per 100) yet their suicide rate is 24.1 per 100,000 people while it is only 11.3 in the USA. Maybe that means that we need to keep our guns to maintain the low suicide rate?:eek:
     
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  13. Stujoe

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    I agree. If guns are not there, people will find another good tool for the job. A rope or jumping off a building or whatever.
     
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  14. Themistokles480

    Themistokles480 New Member

    Drinking anti-freeze seems like it should be higher on the list than it is.
     
  15. IQless1
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    I would only disagree due to a somewhat intangible reason, one that is impossible to prove or disprove, but I am certain enough of it to mention it here.

    IMO, the ease of pulling a trigger, that instant in time when it is pulled, makes the use of a firearm more appealing to those who do not wish to experience a possible, prolonged suffering. That said, some fail in the attempt, and may linger for years. I've met one such person personally, survives with a rather nasty face-wound from a bullet. (Ropes break occasionally, btw, and many people fail in their attempt(s) for various reasons, as well).

    It may be that some choose that prolonged suffering as partial contrition for some perceived wrong they have committed (justified or not). Others choose more gentle routes, to avoid the aspect of violence.

    One aspect shouldn't be discounted though, and that is time. Most methods of suicide give you time to consider whether or not to make the attempt, a bullet...the pulling of the trigger...usually can't be reconsidered, and is less likely to be survivable, than say... cutting an artery or asphyxiating yourself.

    It should be noted I'm not advocating for restrictions on 99.9% of guns available, or for gun use. I'm simply attempting to understand the issues of suicides-by-firearm a bit more than I already do, as well as to share my own personal insights in that respect.

    btw, what's wrong with jumping off of buildings? I've jumped off of a lot of 'em! You don't have enough snowfall down there in "the desert", or whaaaat? ;) :D
     
  16. Stujoe

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    Only for dogs.

    Personally, I am surprised suicide by car is not more popular. 120 MPH. No Seat belt. No Air Bag. Meet Concrete Overpass. And their heirs would probably still get insurance money.
     
  17. Stujoe

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    I am not an expert but I think hanging yourself is a pretty much done deal once it is started. Same with jumping off a building (except for you people in Antarctica with 40 foot snow pack ;)). As 'easy' as pulling a trigger. I don't know. I think it would be pretty hard to pull that trigger unless you really meant it. Of course, I am not suicidal so I don't really know.

    But, I suspect that, without guns, other methods would just increase. Like in Japan. I could be wrong but, like I said, I don't see suicide as really a gun problem. I see it as a mental health problem.
     
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  18. IQless1
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    It's not always fatal, and the suffering afterwards has got to be intense.

    I regret mentioning the following, even as I write it, but running a hose (from the tailpipe) through an open window of a car is much more appealing, to some. As deaths go, it's serene. :(

    The moderator may, at his discretion, remove the sentence above, with no argument from me.
     
  19. IQless1
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    I'm not disagreeing exactly, but a person can be sane and commit suicide.

    The debate on ending your life in America (or, as with Dr. Kevorkian's work, assisted suicide) is ongoing, but I myself have always believed a sane person can come to such a decision.

    It depends on the circumstances, of course. Two teens forming a pack to commit suicide is not sane, IMO, but is instead an act of passion. A 94 year old woman with an estimated/expected life of a few weeks or months, lying on a bed suffering is, IMO.
     
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  20. Stujoe

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    In accidents, a high speed crash might not always be fatal in a modern car with safety features but 120 mph on purpose into a concrete wall with no belts or bags? I think the Reaper is going to be satisfied.
     

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