Union Results: 3 Closed Bakeries, 627 Unemployed People

Oh, BTW, some judge has been running "the business" since January. Maybe you should become a judge and do a better job?

 

Do you have any experience with the U.S. legal system? Almost anyone can do a better job.

 

Only $14.00 per hour???? You miserly Scrooge! Are you only paying them $14.00 an hour because they agreed to that sum when they signed on? I think they can still squeeze more out of you.

 

No I chose that as the minimum because it is almost double the state minimum wage, and is the salary I lived on for years as a college student (and graduate schools don't pay much more to fellowship students either.) Most of my janitors make over 20, as they have (quite literally) the shittiest job.

 

Just because you were making $14.00 an hour back in the 1920's doesn't mean that people can live on that these days. Get with the program, Ebenezer and start paying your employees a higher starting wage. $14.00 an hour.. sheeeeeeesh!

Oh, and they're really not "your" janitors, are they? That makes it sound like you own them or that they're some type of indentured servants.

 

I love it when Richard Trumpka get upset:

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Semantics. Also, people can easily live off of $28,000 a year, especially when they have not earned any credentials, most have a GED or High School Diploma at best. I have no problem paying more, for people who have earned the right to earn more, and demonstrate themselves capable of handling increased responsibility.

 

You sound like an elitist 1%-er. "Sure, he can feed his family on $28,000 per year". I went to college and he didn't, so he can easily live off $28,000". Thank you for your input, Resort Overlord.

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Alright jackass, compare that salary to those of every other employer in my county and you will find that it is in the top 10% of all businesses. Cost of living index is different for different areas of the country. The average salary for this area is about $54,000/year, and that number is inflated due to the large number of doctors.

 

OK, so you're paying your employees approx. half the average salary for your area. Tell us something, Ebenezer.... are "your" employees members of a union?

 

I don't ask or discriminate, so possibly.

 

I'll take that as a "no". An owner of a company worth his salt would know if his employees are unionized or not.

 

I want to see what their (upper management/owners) yearly pay (+ bonuses) was during each of the last ten years. I see that the unions took a hit in 2004. If the top people were making $millions, did they themselves take any cuts in pay or forgo the bs bonuses these types of people are so fond of giving themselves?

 

I worked in Maintenance...which is an alternate job title for "janitor"...and was made Head of the department in less than two years there. My highest pay, which was the top they were ever going to give me btw, was $9.50 an hour, back when the minimum wage was something like $5.85 or whatever. They made it VERY clear that that was it, not a penny more...not a good incentive for me to stay, and I didn't.

 

Here, I'd say a minimum of $12,000 will get you through a year...if you don't need a car or have health issues, or have any accidents/injuries. My State requires car insurance, which means if you need a car to get to work $12,000 isn't going to cut it...make it closer to $20,000 and a single healthy person here has a small shot at saving for retirement.

 

Yep! That is why thy had to use 2 different trucks to deliver twinkies and bread (I guess the unions thought that the twinkies would spoil the bread?) and then each truck had to have their own pullup. I guess the unions felt the twinkies were too heavy and exhausting to lift for a driver to then driver the truck for another mile.

 

What a typical, far left elitist you are. Who are you to decide people can "easily live off of $28,000 a year"? Who are you to sit it judgement of those who have/have not graduated from high school or college?

 

Exactly. Not just an elitist, but a prig and a snob. What a stupid jerk he is.

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Found 'em! After coming out of bankruptcy in 2009, the top 4 Hostess execs. gave themselves a 75-80% raise and then agreed to work for $1 during the second bankruptcy earlier this year. Some sacrifice management.

Hostess has stressed that sacrifices were made across-the-board at the company, though workers may feel like they've given up far more than executives. As the Wall Street Journal reported, the company's four top executives agreed earlier this year to work for a salary of $1 until Hostess emerged from bankruptcy -- but only after enjoying raises of 75 to 80 percent in 2011, when the company had already hired restructuring lawyers.)

 

Thanks.

Those figures also don't appear to include bonuses, stock options, or their (upper management's) yearly salaries. Those top four people probably made as much or more than their entire staff combined. You want to trim fat? Drop those top salaries to a reasonable level. I've heard of too many cases of a CEO (or whatever) being hired for a year, getting massive bonuses and stock options that are sometimes worth far more than their base salary, then watch the guy (it's rarely a woman) quit and cash in big time. The corporate structure is idiotic, IMO...give them a decent wage, and a decent performance benefit...but don't give them $100,000,000 bonus for driving a company into the ground.