Republicans and The Perfect Storm

Discussion in 'Politics' started by justafarmer, Oct 26, 2012.

  1. justafarmer

    justafarmer Well-Known Member

    Could Sandy be Obama's undoing?
     
  2. rlm's cents
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    I suspect he is already undone, but that could be another stone on his grave.
     
  3. CoinOKC
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    It looks like it could be a nasty one:

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    But, will it be Obama's undoing? I'm more inclined to believe that his lies regarding the incident in Benghazi will be his undoing. As long as the major news outlets report the incident fairly (unlike ABC News):

    Why is ABC News refusing to cover Obama's Libya scandal?

    October 26, 2012

    Every other broadcast news network has produced at least one major story on the release of emails related to the attack in Benghazi that killed our ambassador and three other brave Americans. While not enough, in some cases, it’s something. From ABC News, it’s nothing.

    ABC is aiding and abetting the Obama administration’s cover-up of their deceitful response to the Benghazi terrorist attack. There is no bigger story than Obama’s Benghazi lie, and ABC, a so-called "news network," has absolutely no excuse for hiding the truth from the American people.

    The questions are simple: what did President Obama know? And when did he know it? These emails prove that either Obama knew it was a terrorist attack and lied about it for weeks, or his administration is historically incompetent. Either way, it’s major news and demands more than mere seconds of total coverage from one of the three major broadcast networks.

    ABC has been shielding Obama from the Benghazi fallout for weeks in order to help him win re-election, but the American people see right through it. Their corruption is as obvious as it is unforgivable.
     
  4. jth

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    I would say the dems will try and us this storm to their advantage. Since this storm is going to hit in heavy democrat regions, there is probably going to be widespread power outages and they will be screaming 'I didn't get to vote'.
     
  5. JoeNation
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    No, it will probably be the cold front that moved through last night. Or possibly the light rain we're expecting on Monday. Maybe the full moon?
     
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  6. clembo

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    All Democrat and Republican bashing aside, for that matter ,how does one handle this on a state to state level?

    It could certainly put a damper on early voting in it's current track. Logical solution is to get out and vote NOW if possible. Of course some wouldn't be able to and I would assume there would be Republicans in that group as well.

    Now let's imagine that this storm IS that bad and large areas of the east are without power well past November 6th. Then what?

    Do you tell millions of voters tough beans?

    Once again both Democrats and Republicans.
     
  7. rlm's cents
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    I think you will find that voting ends no later than midnight of the 6th and likely earlier depending on the individual state laws.
     
  8. clembo

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    I suppose you are correct rlm but it gives us food for thought.

    Perhaps this issue should be addressed for future elections.

    Another avenue for both sides to squabble over.:D
     
  9. rlm's cents
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    I am sure they will squabble, but I will bet it does not change. Maybe that is why we have mail-in and early voting.
     
  10. clembo

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    The big difference here is the magnitude of the storm.

    New York City is shutting down it's mass transit at 7 tonight.

    How often does that happen?
     
  11. CoinOKC
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    Since the Constitution doesn't mandate a national election day, the answer might possibly be "no". The president isn't elected by popular vote, but by the Electoral College (Electors) as set out in the Constitution. Elections are held the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November and that's when electors are elected (you don't actually vote for president, but an elector).

    The day of the vote (the "time of chusing") by the Electoral College is set by Congress and is usually held in December. Therefore, in theory, people could still vote for their elector until the day the Electoral College meets. Of course, it would be up to the states to allow a special election in case of a natural disaster (good luck with that).

    Article. II.
    Section. 1.
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    The Congress may determine the Time of chusing (sic) the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.
    ...
     
  12. rlm's cents
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    FWIW, you will notice that the article you cite in no way says that the populous has to vote for the electors. There is nothing saying that the state representatives cannot choose the electors. However, the individual states do have laws and/or constitutions that do mandate how and when they are chosen.

    As for changing the date, you will notice that it does mandate they all be chosen on the same date. Change it for NY, and you must change every other state's law/constitution. That will never happen.
     
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  13. CoinOKC
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    It's complicated because the Electors were set up by the framers as a compromise between those who wanted Congress to select the president and those who wanted a popular vote for president. The Electoral College is actually a very good way to elect a president (contrary to those who believe otherwise concerning the 2000 election) because it allows the individual states a say in who will be elected. Otherwise, our presidents would be elected every time by the high-population, liberal northeast states.
     
  14. clembo

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    Nope. It never will and it's not really likely that this weather will arise again anytime soon.

    Still, I think it's an issue that should be addressed.
     
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  17. justafarmer

    justafarmer Well-Known Member

    Staten Island
     
  18. justafarmer

    justafarmer Well-Known Member

    New Jersey is going to allow voting by fax and email.
     
  19. clembo

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    Apparently not.
     
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    rlm's cents Well-Known Member

    Yet .......
     

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