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Discussion in 'Politics' started by c jay, Jan 24, 2021.
My guess is AOC.
yeah because senile joe biden won't survive the debates and will never be seated. derrrrp
I said 100 days and have declared my allegiance for the next year in other post. Anything past that is fair game. derrrrrp
“...In honor of the many hardworking and inspiring women of color in the world, I want to continue promoting diversity and female empowerment in all levels of government and the private sector, and that is why I nominate The Honorable representative from NY, Alexandria Ocasio Cortez for Vice President of the United States...”
Genuinely though, I don't think she can in this hypothetical. Gotta be 35 to be president. She's currently 31.
Now, I firmly believe (hope) Joe will step down in 2024. Harris might be able to pick her as a VP then.
Still, I doubt it. The establishment Democrats running the party are not big fans of hers.
Booker or Pete seem more likely to me
There are no establishment Democrats. You're either drinking the intersectionalist Kool Aid or you're not. Wasn't Nancy P originally opposed Impeachment 1.0 but the uber progressives yanked here back in line.
Oh yeah, thankfully the progressives are gaining ground. If there were no establishment Democrats, why did we get Biden and Harris? He was easily the most moderate of the group, and she has history as a prosecutor who's policies led to higher incarceration of people of color and protecting police misdoings. I know of no progressives that like him, and I thought Harris was the worst VP pick. Why did the DNC crush Bernie twice? He's very motivating to the progressives.
Anytime someone claims "Biden is a puppet of the left"
I think they wanted Harris but couldn't get her pass the primaries. Biden fits the profile for the rank and file but is very flexible. Switch and Bait. Plus, during the campaign, didn't she say Harris Administration once or twice. The powers that be deep inside the DNC want a very progressive administration.
See though, on her records and 2020 primary stances, I really don't see her as a progressive. More progressive than Biden, for sure, but not liberal/progressive at all compared to the left wing of the party.
All this from a guy that voted for Trump twice. I have little interest in any opinion that comes from extremists calling other people extremists. The Right is so far out on the extreme fringe these days that it is laughable for them to talk about anyone being too extreme.
Straight from the CorrectThink directorate
Fact check: Is Kamala Harris the most liberal member of the Senate?
By Holmes Lybrand and Tara Subramaniam, CNN
Updated 6:01 PM ET, Mon August 17, 2020
Washington (CNN)After former Vice President Joe Biden announced California Sen. Kamala Harris as his running mate, critics were quick to label her as far left while some progressives bemoaned her as too much of a moderate.
President Donald Trump led the charge, telling Fox Business on Thursday that Harris was "the most liberal person in the US Senate."
Facts First: Harris' voting record in the Senate is certainly one of the most liberal, though her record prior to the Senate is more moderate on some issues.
CNN holds elected officials and candidates accountable by pointing out what's true and what's not.
Here's a look at our recent fact checks.
After six years as California's attorney general, Harris was elected to the US Senate in 2016. Since then, she has co-sponsored bills aligned with several liberal causes including expanding gun control measures and passing "Medicare for All." Harris has also voted against many Trump nominees for federal judgeships and top positions inside his administration.
In 2019, GovTrack, a non-partisan organization that tracks bills in Congress, ranked Harris as the "most liberal compared to All Senators." One measure the organization uses is comparing how many bipartisan bills each senator cosponsors to how many bills they co-sponsored in total. Harris had the lowest at 15% in 2019.
During her primary run, Harris eventually disagreed with Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders on whether private health insurance should play a role in Medicare for All, a bill that Harris originally co-sponsored. In a January 2019 town hall, Harris was asked by CNN's Jake Tapper if she supported eliminating private insurance. The senator answered affirmatively, saying she would be OK with cutting insurers out of the mix. When Harris released her Medicare for All plan months later in July it stopped short of completely eliminating private insurance.
While Trump did say "in the US Senate," some who argue against the narrative laid out by Trump and others point to Harris' record as California's attorney general, which GovTrack's founder says is "at odds" with her time in the Senate.
Harris has received criticism for some of her actions as attorney general, especially regarding criminal justice reform, which some see as contradictory to more liberal ideals. For example, during the primary, other candidates pushed her to defend policies enacted while she was AG, such as a hardline stance on marijuana, that disproportionately affected communities of color.
Since becoming a senator, Harris has changed her stance on marijuana in particular. In 2019, while announcing a bill to decriminalize the possession of marijuana on a federal level Harris said, "Times have changed -- marijuana should not be a crime."
"Our analysis is at odds with her documented pre-Congress career of being pragmatic or moderate," Josh Tauberer, GovTrack founder told the Sacramento Bee, "and it remains to be seen which part of her career -- her actions as a district attorney and Attorney General or her policy proposals in Congress -- would be reflected greater in a Biden administration."
Perhaps NationJoe needs a re-education to be more in line with CorrectThink directive. Please readdress your opinion of VP Harris.
After that “Burn them all and send them to hell” post you created earlier today...... Sounds just a wee bit hypocritical to me anyways...... But then hypocrisy is nothing new from your side of the street.....
Joe, how many times did you vote for Biden?