This Is What Happens When a Narcissist Runs a Crisis

Discussion in 'Politics' started by JoeNation, Apr 6, 2020.

  1. JoeNation

    JoeNation Patron Saint of Idiots

    We are so screwed but at least Trump will spin the devastation into a positive that the gullible bootlicking,
    brownnosing, fawning, flunkies, lickspittles, and suck-ups will fall for hook, line, and sucker. Not trying to change minds here, just letting you know what you look like to the rest of us. You know, the majority that didn't vote for this damn buffoon.

    This Is What Happens When a Narcissist Runs a Crisis

    Trump’s catastrophic performance has as much to do with psychology as ideology.

    By Jennifer Senior

    Since the early days of the Trump administration, an impassioned group of mental health professionals have warned the public about the president’s cramped and disordered mind, a darkened attic of fluttering bats. Their assessments have been controversial. The American Psychiatric Association’s code of ethics expressly forbids its members from diagnosing a public figure from afar.

    Enough is enough. As I’ve argued before, an in-person analysis of Donald J. Trump would not reveal any hidden depths — his internal sonar could barely fathom the bottom of a sink — and these are exceptional, urgent times. Back in October, George T. Conway III, the conservative lawyer and husband of Kellyanne, wrote a long, devastating essay for The Atlantic, noting that Trump has all the hallmarks of narcissistic personality disorder. That disorder was dangerous enough during times of prosperity, jeopardizing the moral and institutional foundations of our country.

    But now we’re in the midst of a global pandemic. The president’s pathology is endangering not just institutions, but lives.

    Let’s start with the basics. First: Narcissistic personalities like Trump harbor skyscraping delusions about their own capabilities. They exaggerate their accomplishments, focus obsessively on projecting power, and wish desperately to win.

    What that means, during this pandemic: Trump says we’ve got plenty of tests available, when we don’t. He declares that Google is building a comprehensive drive-thru testing website, when it isn’t. He sends a Navy hospital ship to New York and it proves little more than an excuse for a campaign commercial, arriving and sitting almost empty in the Hudson. A New York hospital executive calls it a joke.

    Second: The grandiosity of narcissistic personalities belies an extreme fragility, their egos as delicate as foam. They live in terror of being upstaged. They’re too thin skinned to be told they’re wrong.

    What that means, during this pandemic: Narcissistic leaders never have, as Trump likes to say, the best people. They have galleries of sycophants. With the exceptions of Drs. Anthony Fauci and Deborah Birx, Trump has surrounded himself with a Z-team of dangerously inexperienced toadies and flunkies — the bargain-bin rejects from Filene’s Basement — at a time when we require the brightest and most imaginative minds in the country.
  2. toughcoins

    toughcoins Well-Known Member

    I, for one, am glad to look like a moron to liberals like you, Joe.

    Yours is an extreme mindset, not completely shared by the majority who voted against Donald Trump in 2016.
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  3. JohnHamilton

    JohnHamilton Well-Known Member

    Yea, Joe, I can see you cheering at every American death because you think it verifies your position. There is a buffoon involved here, and it’s you. You are sicker than I ever thought.

    There is no upside for you here. You and your friends are digging your political graves. Think of what happened to Charles Limbaugh’s reputation before World War II. That’s where you are headed.
  4. JoeNation

    JoeNation Patron Saint of Idiots

    So instead of even considering any criticism of your fearless cult leader, you immediately attack anyone that dares to speak the truth about your deity. Honestly, the emperor has never had clothes. Your reaction alone validates everything this young woman has written about the narcissist-in-chief.

    If personal attacks are all you can come up with, noted. Just move along and let those of us not brainwashed consider the merits of this opinion piece. You obviously can't muster the objectivity to even participate in the debate. In other words, you have removed yourselves from the discussion by your own hand. I, for one, will not miss your narrow-minded opinions.
  5. toughcoins

    toughcoins Well-Known Member

    Okay Joe, you asked for it.

    Yes, Donald Trump is a narcissist and he shoots from the hip in front of the cameras . . . two things I really dislike.

    He also happens to tell the people what they can expect from him, he understands what motivates others, he's a hard worker and a great decision-maker . . .

    Best of all, he has a great way of cutting through that blanket of deception thrown over the American public by the liberal-dominated mass media for so many years.

    Does he have his faults? Sure he does . . . we've never had a president who didn't, and we never will.

    The fact that liberals don't like him doesn't make him doesn't make him a bad president . . . in fact, I think it makes him a better one.

    So Joe, what's the problem?
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  6. JoeNation

    JoeNation Patron Saint of Idiots

    All I have asked for is the acknowledgement of reality. I never suggested anyone was perfect or that every decision this Administration makes is 100% wrong but if we ever reach the point where we cannot critique the job any Administration is doing and are roundly attacked for even bringing up issues, then we are in little more than a cult of personality.

    Honest, reality-based criticisms receive no legitimacy from those here that can't abide any criticism whatsoever. That is completely nuts. Any Administration is and should be subject to criticisms if they are valid and substantiated. Personal attacks and delusional rationales are poor substitutes for honest debate.

    When I am targeted and attacked for a perfectly valid criticism of Trump, it only tells me that there is no defense of his actions or words and I have won the day from the git-go. When I am lumped into some group the Right loves to hate or told that this is what I think, I know that I have won the argument because my point cannot be refuted and the knee-jerk reactions from his supporters is all the proof I need.

    I don't envy you guys one little bit. I would hate to be in the position of defending this narcissist. It can't be easy. So, so much ammunition that it is hard to even pick one target to aim at. Maybe that is the strategy? Maybe it doesn't matter how many times Trump crosses all the lines he crosses because he will simply cross the next line before you finish pointing out his last line he crossed.

    The point is that there certainly is plenty to criticize Trump for. He is a one-man shit-show on steroids. I can't honestly keep up with everything this inept clown does on a daily basis so be thankful that I don't have more time to devote to pointing out the reality we all are living through. I am glad that critiquing Trump isn't my full-time job. I'd need at least a couple of assistants if I ever had that type of job.
  7. JohnHamilton

    JohnHamilton Well-Known Member

    What a load of crap!!!!!

    I have never seen you say ONE THING POSITIVE about Trump at ANY TIME on these boards. That is why you have ZERO CREDIBILITY here. Your posts have been reduced to comedy acts.

    “I wonder what the Trump hater will post today?”

    Yes, I wish that Trump could cool it sometimes. But when you look at your party has done to him since the day he took office, it’s not wonder than that there is war between the parties. You never gave him a chance. If you won’t there, you were there in spirit with the Bozos who were protesting on Inauguration Day.

    Hilly Clinton lost. GET OVER IT, and start thinking about what you will do in November.

    Get rid of the stupid Pope image of Trump. Start to act like a man instead of child. Then you will be getting somewhere.
  8. JoeNation

    JoeNation Patron Saint of Idiots

    See, nothing but personal attacks. I win again.
  9. JohnHamilton

    JohnHamilton Well-Known Member

    Show me one positive thing you have posted about Trump, prior to now.
  10. JoeNation

    JoeNation Patron Saint of Idiots

  11. JohnHamilton

    JohnHamilton Well-Known Member

    Why? o_O You wrote that "I never suggested anyone was perfect or that every decision this Admisistration makes is 100% wrong"!!!!

    That's funny because all we every hear from you is that EVERYTHING Trump does is wrong.
  12. JoeNation

    JoeNation Patron Saint of Idiots

  13. JoeNation

    JoeNation Patron Saint of Idiots

    Here stupid. David Frum says it better than I possibly could. I agree that the coronavirus is not Trump's Fault.

    “That the pandemic occurred is not Trump’s fault. The utter unpreparedness of the United States for a pandemic is Trump’s fault. The loss of stockpiled respirators to breakage because the federal government let maintenance contracts lapse in 2018 is Trump’s fault. The failure to store sufficient protective medical gear in the national arsenal is Trump’s fault. That states are bidding against other states for equipment, paying many multiples of the precrisis price for ventilators, is Trump’s fault. Air travelers summoned home and forced to stand for hours in dense airport crowds alongside infected people? That was Trump’s fault too. Ten weeks of insisting that the coronavirus is a harmless flu that would miraculously go away on its own? Trump’s fault again. The refusal of red-state governors to act promptly, the failure to close Florida and Gulf Coast beaches until late March? That fault is more widely shared, but again, responsibility rests with Trump: He could have stopped it, and he did not.

    “The lying about the coronavirus by hosts on Fox News and conservative talk radio is Trump’s fault: They did it to protect him. The false hope of instant cures and nonexistent vaccines is Trump’s fault, because he told those lies to cover up his failure to act in time. The severity of the economic crisis is Trump’s fault; things would have been less bad if he had acted faster instead of sending out his chief economic adviser and his son Eric to assure Americans that the first stock-market dips were buying opportunities. The firing of a Navy captain for speaking truthfully about the virus’s threat to his crew? Trump’s fault. The fact that so many key government jobs were either empty or filled by mediocrities? Trump’s fault. The insertion of Trump’s arrogant and incompetent son-in-law as commander in chief of the national medical supply chain? Trump’s fault.

    “For three years, Trump has blathered and bluffed and bullied his way through an office for which he is utterly inadequate. But sooner or later, every president must face a supreme test, a test that cannot be evaded by blather and bluff and bullying. That test has overwhelmed Trump.

    “Trump failed. He is failing. He will continue to fail. And Americans are paying for his failures.“
  14. JohnHamilton

    JohnHamilton Well-Known Member

    I hope that you will still a member in good standing in the Socialist Democrat Party after this breach of faith.

    Adam Schiff is getting ready to hold more hearings in his “star chamber” to see if Trump conspired with Putin and the Communist Chinese to develop the Corona Virus. I hope Adam won’t think any less you now that you broken ranks with the orthodoxy of the party. Such breaches of protocol are seldom tolerated. :eek:
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  15. JoeNation

    JoeNation Patron Saint of Idiots

  16. JohnHamilton

    JohnHamilton Well-Known Member

    No, satire.

    But, who knows? Adam Schiff is one of the great political fiction writers of our time. ;)

    He might just pick up on this. He's been that desperate before. In which case, I will demand a royalty.
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  17. JoeNation

    JoeNation Patron Saint of Idiots

    You hate him because you have Schiff derangement syndrome. You think everyone that has a different opinion than your opinion is automatically wrong. You think... LOL! I can't stop laughing long enough to pretend to be you.
  18. JoeNation

    JoeNation Patron Saint of Idiots

    This isn't my writing but I wish it were because I agree 100%.

    Snowflakes can't handle the truth.
    There are very few Republicans with the courage to say one word against Donald Trump. They cannot handle the truth.

    Their President is lying to them. He is lying to America. Yet, they are mostly silent.

    There are no profiles of courage in the Republican Party. Mitt Romney? Not that courageous. He knows that Trump is not that popular in Utah. But, he is still afraid to make too many waves.

    They follow the example of Mitch McConnell, who doesn't even know what planet he is on.

    We can only assume that their silence is consent? We all know these people. They say nothing, as if they do not recognize lies, deception, or tyranny? They are like zombies.

    They sleepwalk as our country is being destroyed from within. Perhaps they are hoping that the Democrats will save our country once again and they don't have to do anything except be against our "government"? They are true snowflakes. They melt at the first sight of the truth.

    The sad fact is that they love their Party more than they love their Country. They are frozen with indecision and cowardice.

    It is their silence that is so infuriating. These were our family and friends. What happened to them?

    Their brains have melted like butter under the propaganda assault of Donald Trump. They are not capable of reasoning or rationalizing. They cannot tell the difference between reality and a "reality show".

    What choice do they leave everyone else?

    Snowflakes are soon gone.
  19. toughcoins

    toughcoins Well-Known Member

    This writer so obviously discounts the possibility . . . no, the likelihood that most republicans actually agree with Donald Trump's direction. Do they agree with his bombast, brashness and narcissism? . . . not likely. With his direction? . . . absolutely. Our beliefs are rooted in the same fundamental principles, and we are willing to tolerate his sub-optimal communication skills in order to get the right things done.

    Quite the opposite of the Democrat Party that would drift so far from rational / practical solutions, just to be perceived as benevolent and altruistic as they pretend to be.

    So, truly, who are the real snowflakes here? Those who will get things done, or those who just say they will?
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  20. JohnHamilton

    JohnHamilton Well-Known Member

    That's typical. Most of what you post here has been written by someone else.

    That is a reflection of what you think. You hate this country.

    One of the first posts I read by you when I first came on these boards described the United States a war mongering nation. According to you we have been at war for 75% of our history. Furthermore, according to you, those conflicts have been imperialist wars of conquest. That is communist propaganda.

    I had heard about some-called liberals like you, but I had never read posts from one.

    You think this country sucks. You hate every aspect of our economic system. You hate capitalism, and you have no understanding of how it works, but you don’t have to courage to tell us what kind of system you want to impose on us upon us. If you did, you know you would be roundly rejected here.

    All you can do is rail against Trump. That’s all you have the courage to do.

    So, stop wrapping yourself in the flag. You are not a patriot. Your globalist and socialist who wants a revolution.
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