The hook is in.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Pepperoni, Nov 14, 2009.

  1. Pepperoni

    Pepperoni New Member

    To cover the deeds Mr. Obama wants done takes a nation to look the other way.
    Bringing K.S.M. Khalid Sheikh Mohammed to New York for trial is a huge diversion that will keep America occupied with rage . That should give him an open door to getting his agenda completed.
    To destroy a city, and the people once more in a trial that should be held off shore is a steep price to pay for an agenda.

    Pep
     
  2. tomcorona

    tomcorona Anti republican truther

    Similar to maybe, I don't know, the DIVERSION created by 911 to push through the Cheney/Rumsfield agenda headed by flunkee boy? To 'cover'
    their criminal acts? 'To destroy a city'. Yes the similarities are indeed striking.
     
  3. Pepperoni

    Pepperoni New Member

    Theory

    The difference between theory and reality is , there is no reality in theory.
     
  4. tomcorona

    tomcorona Anti republican truther

    Yes in 'theory', there were WMD'S, hence Iraq. In reality, there weren't any.
    Looks like theory trumped reality here though huh?
     
  5. clembo

    clembo Well-Known Member

    Pep,

    Just a question or two if you don't mind. If the trials were held elsewhere are you saying Americans wouldn't care? If the media chose to totally ignore it I suppose but somehow don't see that happening.

    OR, should we just hold off the trials until Obama is out of office. Then people could blame him for never having done anything about it.
     
  6. tomcorona

    tomcorona Anti republican truther

    Theory: Bush/Cheney had an exit strategy for Iraq.
    Reality: They never had an exit stategy and intended a permanent occupation

    Theory: We were freeing Iraq.
    Reality: We were illegally occupying their country.

    Theory: Bush's tax cuts were a good deal for the American people.
    Reality: It was a good deal for the rich.

    Theory: Bush's prescription drug plan was a good deal for seniors.
    Reality: It was a good deal for the drug companies.

    Theory: Obama is creating a big mess.
    Reality: Obama is trying to clean up a big mess he was left with by war criminals.
     
  7. Pepperoni

    Pepperoni New Member

    No;
    The trials should not take place in NYC . There is no way to stop a large number of people who are willing to die, a chance to hurt America.
    I believe Mr. Obama has reached the Zenith of his idology to accomplish only what he wants at Americas and Americans expense.
    These terrorists should be on a secured base to face a military Tribunal NOTHING ELSE. They have no civil right until they step on our soil.
    Sorry if I confused you with my dialog.

    Pep
     
  8. Danr

    Danr New Member

    Ok lets say that this is a cynical ploy (which is doubtful), and it succeeds in putting through some good policies, where is the harm?
     
  9. Danr

    Danr New Member

    Ok are you saying that this will cause a terrorist act in NYC during the trial? It seems like you are really grabbing for straws on this one.
     
  10. Stujoe

    Stujoe Well-Known Member

    Or maybe...


    Theory: Obama is trying to clean up a big mess he was left with by war criminals.
    Reality: Obama is creating a big mess.
     
  11. Stujoe

    Stujoe Well-Known Member

    Because, of course, good policies are the only kinds of policies our Dear Leader would put through.
     
  12. Danr

    Danr New Member

    Finally you are seeing things correctly comrade.
     
  13. tomcorona

    tomcorona Anti republican truther

    Lets see..Bush was at war all but 7 months of his reign of terror
    Osama bin Laden is supposedly still at large.
    Al-Qaida was not in Iraq before 9/11, but it is there now. Iraq had absolutely no connection with 9/11 and the White House knew that, but Bush did not care.
    The fact that the world...including most Americans...opposes his idea of pre-emptive war, torturing prisoners and suspending civil liberties does not bother this numbskull.
    Most Americans do not realize that Bush has mortgaged our children's future by deferring the cost of the war. Whether it will be $1 trillion or $3 trillion, the war is being paid for on credit.
    Now suddenly the Fox watching lemmings can see when spending is "out of control". Never mind the had 8 years the criminal elite empire had to effect a positive outcome and voters threw out the criminals....now it's Obama's fault.
    I got it. The problems all started January 2009. No...you're right. If we could only put Bush back in...the Fox watchers would be quiet and all would be well.
    OH that's right......911 changed everything!! I almost forgot.
     
  14. De Orc

    De Orc Well-Known Member

    If you try them before a millitery court then you are giving them a hint of respectability they can then claim to be soldiers fighting a war, you might not like to hear that but it is a fact, these people like to claim they are POW's and not common criminals.
    Trying them in a civil court takes that away from them and shows them to be nothing more than a set of common criminals. Now which is the better for propoganda been tried by your enemy's Armed Forces under the Millitery code of justice? or been tried by civilians as murderers? Which looks the better on Al jazira?
    These people are not Soldiers and therfore do not Deserve to be given the respect of a Millitery Trial.
     
  15. tomcorona

    tomcorona Anti republican truther

    Yes after 8 years of diversions and criminal agendas, we certainly do not need any more rage. Might make one want to throw shoes at someone instead of looking the other way.
     
  16. Stujoe

    Stujoe Well-Known Member

    Never said that. Never even meant to imply that. And don't believe it.

    But, best as I can tell, I think I have figured out what the main difference between us is...you hate and distrust everything that Republican Party politicians do and I hate and distrust everything that both Republican and Democratic Party politicians do. lol
     
  17. Stujoe

    Stujoe Well-Known Member

    Yep. All I needed was a big mug o' Kool Aid. Obamaberry flavored. Sooooo refreshing.
     
  18. Pepperoni

    Pepperoni New Member

    Yes Obama is creating a big mess !
    He is unable to understand change does not mean doing every thing different. Most I believe, thought he had visions to help.
    It was rather obvious his play book was " Rules for Radicals " .
    He is consistent, and His ideology will be his "Waterloo ".
    Taking chances of the magnitude of having expensive ,un - necessary criminal trials is wrong, in the wrong place .
    I as some others do not trust either party to do the work America needs. Congress works for Congress and being reelected is paramount.
    I am a conservative and believe in the founding documents.
    Voting is difficult when all we have is the best of the worst for choices. This is the change most thought was necessary. Not Acorn,
    or all the Marxists and their ilk trying to create another communist or socialist state.
    I think I will go look at some coins today and maybe stop by the local church.

    Pep
     
  19. Danr

    Danr New Member

    My perspective on Obama is that overall I am disappointed. I voted for the guy (what choice did I have, I guess I could have voted for Ron Paul but that would be a throw away vote). Now I find that his handling of the financial crisis is beyond belief, in my opinion half of Wall Street should not see the light of day for at least 20 years, and he is giving these guys million dollar bonuses!

    As for this "radical" bs that is obviously nonsense. Obama is a major insider not a "radical".
     
  20. tomcorona

    tomcorona Anti republican truther

    I think you might have something there! Actually though, I don't trust either party, but I trust the republicans a whole lot less. Neither is anything to write home about though.
     

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