Did I say that I disagreed with 16 year olds voting? it seems to me that you are simply looking for a argument were non exists Again joining the EU is reversable and we are not in Canada so that is a irrelavence And like I said you can remove a goverment after 4 to 5 years 40% is not a majority it is a minority, as for the spoiled votes what of it they have cast a vote and that is what counts The fall out from the Iraq and Vietnam wars both helped to bring down goverments by the way
I was actually agreeing with you on lowering the voting age An Independent Scotland does not mean that Unionists cannot fight for a return to Union with England/Wales/Northern Ireland. So, in this respect it is exactly the same as with the European Union - it is reversible. Again I am confused, when did I ever try to argue that 40% was a majority? I don't know about America, but in the UK we joined in the war on Iraq because we were told Sadam had Weopons of Mass Destruction - not regime change. The communists won in Vietnam, the only government that was toppled was the South Vietnamese, US backed, one.
I may be in the minority (in America) with my view of the reasons America invaded Iraq. My view is that most Americans at the time were too engaged in a 'patriotic spirit' to bother to verify that the evidence being presented was legitimate. The evidence that Saddam had wmd (which in and of itself is not enough of a reason to invade a country, overthrow it's government, and install a more "favorable" one) was presented as fact when it was more a supposition. Furthermore, the decision to push for legitimacy in the U.N. was a legal matter ...the decision to invade had already been decided, as America had already staged it's military resources and made the necessary preperations, preperations that take months to plan and implement. Regime change was the goal and had been for months. Most people should have been able to see that. The accusations of wmd's was the flimsy reasoning for invasion, with the ultimate goal of regime change. The UK backed the plan, but quite a few other countries were outraged at the audacity of it.
