Man found with van full of guns, explosives plotted to kill Joe Biden, feds say

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  1. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Well-Known Member

    But ANTIFA


    And Leslie Stahl asks QUESTIONS

    KANNAPOLIS, N.C. — A 19-year-old man arrested earlier this year, after authorities found an abandoned van filled with guns, ammunition and explosives at a North Carolina bank, had plotted to kill Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden, according to court records.

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    Authorities said Alexander Hillel Treisman, who also went by the alias Alexander S. Theiss, posted a meme online in April which included the caption, “should I kill joe biden?” Officials said that at one point, he ended up at a Wendy’s restaurant within four miles of Biden’s home.

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    Police arrested Treisman after getting a call from employees about an abandoned van parked at the Fifth Third Bank in Kannapolis in May. Through the van’s windows, officers saw an AR-15 style rifle, a box for a handgun, a cannister of explosive materials and ammunition, according to court records.

    >> Related: Man accused of threatening to kidnap and kill Biden, Harris

    At the bank manager’s request, police towed the van. A subsequent search of the vehicle turned up “approximately $509,000 in cash (believed to be the Defendant’s inheritance), books (about survival, bomb making, improvised weapons and Islam), drawings of swastikas and planes crashing into buildings, and the following firearms: a Sig Sauer AR rifle, an Intratec 9mm Luger, a Lower AR receiver, a Kel-Tec Sub-2000, a .22 caliber rifle marked ArchAngel, and a Russian Mosin Nagant M91/30 bolt action rifle,” according to court records.

    Later in the day, authorities said Treisman showed up at the bank in another car and asked about the van, prompting another call to police. Officers arrested Treisman and searched the car, where they found two more firearms hidden in a clothes hamper and identification cards for Washington, California and Florida, with Treisman’s name or his alias on them.

    >> Related: FBI thwarts militia plot to kidnap Michigan governor

    A search of Treisman’s phone and other electronics found in the van and the car uncovered nearly 8,000 pornographic videos and images of children. Police arrested the 19-year-old on child pornography charges.

    In court last month, authorities shared a note found on Treisman’s phone that described a plan to carry out a mass shooting on a mall food court either on Christmas Day or on Black Friday. Prosecutors also shared images of online posts allegedly made by Treisman in which he talked about raping children and “executing those he hates.” In an April 8 post online, Treisman said he was “going to do a columbine for a while, [but] I think it would better to put it towards something more memorable,” authorities said.

    >> Related: Men who planned Whitmer kidnapping discussed kidnapping Virginia governor, FBI says

    Court records show Treisman has not been charged with any crimes related to his alleged threats. The allegations were brought to light in a court order filed this month granting prosecutors' request to hold Treisman without bail in connection with the child pornography charges.

    He remains in custody at Cabarrus County Jail, according to WSOC-TV.

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    The threat is not the first to be made against high-profile Democrats this year. Earlier this month, federal investigators announced that they busted a plot to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, who has been criticized for enacting lockdown orders aimed at curbing the spread of the coronavirus. Officials with the FBI later said the group responsible for the plot had also discussed kidnapping Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam.

    Officials in Maryland on Wednesday said they arrested a 42-year-old man, James Dale Reed, on suspicion of threatening to kidnap and kill Biden and his running mate, Sen. Kamala Harris. Authorities said Reed also threatened supporters of the Democratic ticket

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  2. CoinBlazer

    CoinBlazer de omnibus dubitandum

    I would gladly agree to have Mr. Triesman charged with domestic terrorism and executed under the death penalty. I’m conservative and don’t want Biden to win, but it doesn’t mean Biden deserves to die. Any sort of political assassination or attack whether successful or not should always be treated as terrorism and a threat to democracy. And you can quote me on that til the day I leave this majestic earth.
     
  3. JohnHamilton
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    JohnHamilton Well-Known Member

    Arrest the fool and put him in jail.

    Now, when are we going to investigate the Hunter Biden lap top? The FBI has sat on it for over nine months.
     
  4. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Well-Known Member

    sure, lets.

    https://www.vox.com/2020/10/22/21529237/hunter-biden-debate-laptop-tony-bobulinski
    In what’s a remarkable series of coincidences or — more likely — an orchestrated campaign, three separate sources have begun providing emails and text messages involving Joe Biden’s son Hunter to conservative journalists and Republican politicians over the past week.

    The contents of what was purportedly Hunter’s laptop were first provided to the New York Post last week by Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani. A computer repair store owner claimed the laptop was left at his store, but questions have been raised about whether that story is accurate and whether all the information allegedly on the laptop is authentic.

    But since then, two disgruntled former business partners of Hunter — Bevan Cooney and Tony Bobulinski — have provided their own emails and texts about Hunter to pro-Trump journalists or GOP politicians. These emails and texts have been quickly tweeted out or published by these outlets (notably Breitbart News, Fox News, the Daily Caller, the Federalist, and the Wall Street Journal editorial page), usually spun in inflammatory ways with a minimum of skeptical or contextual reporting.

    And Thursday afternoon, news broke that Bobulinski will attend the final presidential debate as an invited guest of President Donald Trump. (Cooney was evidently unavailable since he is currently serving a sentence in federal prison for securities fraud.)

    All this is part of an effort by the Trump campaign to argue that Joe Biden is corruptly tied to his son’s questionable business dealings with overseas interests. And they’ve complained that the mainstream media is trying to ignore or suppress this story.

    Yet these emails and texts from Hunter have deliberately been given to staunchly pro-Trump reporters and media outlets unlikely to be skeptical, to question whether they truly prove what their handlers claim, or to publicize data points that don’t fit the Trump campaign’s preferred message.

    The particular problem here is that, so far, there is almost nothing from Joe Biden himself in the released messages (other than an exchange where the former vice president comforts his despondent, drug-addicted son). There is a fair amount of Hunter making claims about his father, but that could be Hunter throwing his father’s name around without his father’s knowledge.

    Careful investigative journalists would take some time to ascertain what actually happened here, but it certainly seems that much of this material has been deliberately held back for the last few weeks before the election. That, combined with the manner in which it’s being released, makes it all feel a whole lot like a last-minute dirty trick.

    There are now three separate batches of Hunter-related emails
    Despite the fact that President Donald Trump continues to own a business employing his children that regularly accepts large payments from foreign entities, Trump’s final play in his reelection campaign is to argue that Joe Biden is corrupt because his son Hunter accepted large payments from foreign entities.

    This isn’t a new play. Trump’s attempts to drum up dirt on the Bidens related to Hunter’s work for a Ukrainian gas company ended up getting him impeached last year. And for most of 2020, the efforts from various Republicans to revive the attacks on Hunter seemed to flop.


    But now, in a manner seemingly intended to echo the leak of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta’s hacked emails in October 2016, emails, texts, and photos with or about Hunter are being leaked out through several sources in an attempt to generate a barrage of negative stories about the Bidens before Election Day.

    Some of this new material has been tied directly to the Trump camp — through Rudy Giuliani, who claimed a computer store owner gave him Hunter’s laptop, which had supposedly been left there. No concrete evidence has yet emerged to disprove that story, but authorities are reportedly investigating whether these emails are tied to a foreign influence campaign.

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    The newer development is that two former business associates of Hunter have entered the picture, suddenly providing their emails and texts with Hunter to conservative journalists and GOP politicians.

    The first, Bevan Cooney, is currently in prison for fraud. The emails he has provided so far — to journalists Matthew Tyrmand and Peter Schweizer — do not actually show him having direct contact with Hunter (Cooney seemed mainly to interact with Hunter’s then-business partner, Devon Archer, who was also convicted of fraud). So Cooney’s emails have gotten less attention.

    Then there’s Tony Bobulinski, who was involved in efforts by Hunter Biden and James Biden (Joe’s brother) to make a business partnership with a Chinese energy tycoon, Ye Jianming, in 2017. Bobulinski released a statement claiming that Joe Biden was involved as well to some extent, and released documents on Wednesday and Thursday to various conservative journalists. Though he claimed to be “not a political person,” the rollout of his material seems awfully politically savvy, and he will be an invited Trump guest at Thursday’s debate.
     
  5. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Well-Known Member

    The two things the Trump campaign wants to prove
    The retort from Biden supporters to all this has usually been that Hunter is not running for president — Joe is.

    Trump’s team is well aware of that, so their top priority has been to try and tie Hunter’s work to Joe Biden in whatever way they can. And they’ve tried to do so in two main ways.

    First, Trump’s team has tried to argue that, as vice president, Joe Biden took action designed to help Hunter’s clients in some way. Their highest-profile example — the vice president urging the firing of Ukraine’s prosecutor general — was widely debunked last year, since the prosecutor general was himself corrupt and many Western governments and institutions wanted him removed for that reason.

    So, more recently, they’ve attempted to argue that Vice President Biden was “soft” on China because Hunter had business ties to Chinese interests. But again, it’s difficult to see how Biden’s views on China differed from the rest of the Obama administration or were out of the norm for his party and the time in any significant way.

    Second, Trump’s team has hoped to prove that Joe Biden himself got a share of Hunter’s money. Yet Joe Biden’s tax returns and financial disclosure forms show no sign of any such thing. And after the Obama administration, Joe and Jill Biden made more than $15 million in 2017 and 2018 — mainly from speaking fees and book payments — so they certainly weren’t hurting for cash.

    Yet there is an alleged email provided by Tony Bobulinski about the deal with the Chinese energy tycoon, sent by Hunter business associate James Gilliar to Bobulinski and Hunter in May 2017, that suggests a split of equity for their new business venture. In addition for “20 H” (20 percent for Hunter) and “10 Jim” (10 percent for James Biden), it includes the line: “10 held by H for the big guy ?”

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    Excerpt of a purported May 2017 email sent among Hunter Biden’s business associates.
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    Bobulinski claims “the big guy” means Joe Biden. But that line notably ends in a question mark. And if accurate, it is unclear whether Joe Biden himself (by then the former vice president) actually knew about it — or whether Hunter was throwing around his name without his knowledge.

    Furthermore, there is also a message six days after this one where Hunter says that his “Chairman” gave him “an emphatic NO.” Fox News claims the “chairman” is Joe Biden, which if true would seem to suggest he turned down Hunter’s offer.

    In any case, the deal involving Bobulinski ended up falling apart. Subsequently, entities tied to the Chinese energy tycoon did end up send nearly $5 million to an account held by Hunter, as Hunter tried to negotiate a gas deal for the Chinese company in Louisiana — yet, again, there’s no indication this had anything to do with Joe Biden.

    “Joe Biden has never even considered being involved in business with his family, nor in any overseas business whatsoever. He has never held stock in any such business arrangements nor has any family member or any other person ever hold stock for him,” Andrew Bates, a spokesperson for the Biden campaign, said in a statement Thursday.

    Actual investigative reporters would put in the time to ascertain, to the best of their ability, what actually happened here. But this is much more akin to an opposition research dump — so it’s just been put out there by conservative journalists with little context or supplementary information, to help Trump make it part of his final campaign push.
     

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