Laboratory Virus

Now that it appears the Covid-19 virus did indeed escape from a laboratory, I am now left to wonder. Is this an engineered bug that was perhaps designed to be especially contagious?

 

Sorry for being so cynical, but I wondered the same almost 3 months ago.

 

Some of the evidence leads to a lab in China where they were working with bats. Unfortunately the U.S. and China kicked in a few million to sponsor this.

An employee got out of the place and infected other people. China covered up the extent and the covered up way the way the the virus is transmitted. They locked down the people in Woohon (sp) so that they could not travel WITHIN China, but they let them travel OUTSIDE of China. In that way they transmitted the illness to the world.

One theory is that the Chinese did this to level the playing field. If they had to shut down to kill this, then so would the rest of the world. I emphasize that this is an opinion, but the logic holds together.

No one is saying that China invented this virus on purpose, but they have continually stonewalled the situation. The latest news is that they won’t allow any of the findings of their scientists to be disclosed without a review by the Red Chinese government. They are still stonewalling.

The evidence is that China is at the center of this, and they are benefiting from the situation.

 

This is stuff right out of a blockbuster movie.

I had also read that the US may have played a part in funding the lab responsible for this.

If any of this stuff ever comes to light as being true, what do you think the repercussions will be?

 

This whole debacle is demonstrative of the lack of trustworthiness of the Chinese government officials, and much of their broader cultural approach. My distrust is rooted in firsthand personal observation, not of the government officials, but of their business ethics in general.

I traveled to China back in the early 2000's to supervise production of parts made for a former employer of mine. During my visit, I saw off-shift knock-offs of one of our competitors products coming off the factory floor. They were unmistakably our competitor's bearing a different label on them, and when they realized what I'd seen, they quickly implied it was for a domestic Chinese manufacturer. Almost certainly, they were making product for that competitor on first shift, and knocking them off with the same tooling (that they didn't own, or have the right to use for their own profit) on 2nd & 3rd shift.

My suspicions were further reinforced when, a number of months later, they accidentally shipped molded samples of parts for approval to a co-worker of mine . . . curiously, they were samples that were supposed to have been sent to that same competitor, but were addressed to us instead.

In another instance, they made an unauthorized substitution for an expensive, tightly specified electronic component and falsified paperwork to sneak it through. The components failed in short order, and we quickly caught on. I sent those failed components to the specified manufacturer for authentication, and was told they were counterfeits. It was very expensive to replace all of those components in the field and, ultimately, our Chinese "partner" had to pay us back for those losses.

I've other anecdotes as well, but these 2 left indelible impressions on me.

I was very trusting of them up front, but have been left "looking over my shoulder" ever since.

 

If the Democrats get control of the Federal Government, there were be no repercussions. "We don't want to offend our Chinese friends" will be the excuse. Many of the Democratic Socialists think that China has the ideal system. Just enough capitalism to keep it afloat financially, and plenty of government control to the rabble in-line. Once the Democratic Socialists will get in control, with Bernie Sanders and AOC running things for the front man, Biden, we will have the "perfect society."

 

Yeah . . . perfectly DOOMED.

 

I have no idea why the Right-wing is so completely susceptible to bogus conspiracy theories but it seems that they have never met one that they didn't love.

Dr. Fauci throws cold water on conspiracy theory that coronavirus was created in a Chinese lab

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's top expert on infectious disease, on Friday, rejected a conspiracy theory that the novel coronavirus was created in and escaped a Chinese lab.

At the daily White House press briefing, a reporter asked: "Mr. President, I wanted to ask Dr. Fauci: Could you address these suggestions or concerns that this virus was somehow manmade, possibly came out of a laboratory in China?"

"There was a study recently that we can make available to you, where a group of highly qualified evolutionary virologists looked at the sequences there and the sequences in bats as they evolve. And the mutations that it took to get to the point where it is now is totally consistent with a jump of a species from an animal to a human," Fauci replied.

He underscored in his remarks that studies of the virus' genome have strongly indicated that it was transmitted from an animal to a human rather than created or enhanced in a laboratory setting, as a review in a scientific journal found.

"We do not believe that any type of laboratory-based scenario is plausible," an analysis published in Nature Medicine in mid-March said. The study, led by computational biologist Kristian Andersen of the Scripps Research Institute in California, compared COVID-19 to the six other coronaviruses known to infect humans. The analysis explicitly states that the evidence shows SARS-CoV-2 "is not a purposefully manipulated virus."

 

No one here is saying that the Chinese manufactured this virus. What has been said is that it could have escaped because of mishandling at the Chinese lab.

There also concerns about how the Chinese handled this situation after it became known that people were sick with the virus. They were also less than forthcoming about how the virus was transmuted and how series it is.

 

Of course they were secretive. They are secretive about everything. They even came down on the doctor that first raised a red flag. They handled it poorly because they don't answer to anyone.

That isn't an intentional or accidental release of a deadly virus from a lab as some conspiracy theorists are advocating. I understand that a closed society is a ripe source of conspiracy theories for people like Alex Jones but clearly the Virologist community is able to detect a manufactured virus vs one that occurs naturally. And they have stated that this is naturally occurring virus that jumped from bats to domestic animals to humans.

Having said that, once a conspiracy theory is out there, there is no way to stop it. It is a kind of societal virus itself.

 

I Iust have missed this. Where is the evidence that the virus was inadvertently released from a lab in China? I would be very interested in reading about it.

 

Fox News.

 

If you want to go defend Communist China in all this, be my guest, Joe. I know you would like to impose their system of government here. If I'm wrong, please correct me and tell me where you disagree with their government.

You views will be as popular as the Corona Virus itself if you go down this road.

If Fox News doesn't report it, it sure as hell won't get reported by the news people you listen to. If Obama were still president, they might report it if he gave them permission, but not now.

 

Uh huh.

 

So which theory to you support, Joe?

The "wet market theory" or "the U.S. Army brought the virus to China and spread it among the population?"

If you are for the "wet market theory" would care to put pressure the Chinese to reform their retail food system, or would you call that "culturally insensitive" and “racist?"

Or perhaps it was an early gift from the Easter Bunny, or the act of a vengeful god who is angry at us because of homosexuality and the falling amount of church attendance.

All of those theories are out there … except for maybe the Easter Bunny.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/coronavirus-wuhan-lab-china-compete-us-sources

Is this the article you all are referring to?

 

Personally, I'm a subscriber to the wet market theory. I wouldn't call it culturally insensitive to ask them to put sanitation and health restrictions on them either. Z
It's not like live slaughter markets are unique to Asia. Even the U.S. has live poultry markets, a huge potential source for avian flu.

 

No, it was something I heard... And for the life of me, I don't know where I heard it.

 

U.S. intel community says coronavirus "not manmade or genetically modified"
Source: CBS News

U.S. intel community says coronavirus "not manmade or genetically modified"

BY OLIVIA GAZIS

APRIL 30, 2020 / 10:56 AM / CBS NEWS

Washington — The U.S. intelligence community has concluded that the coronavirus "was not manmade or genetically modified," but investigations into the origins of the outbreak are ongoing, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) said Thursday.


"The entire Intelligence Community has been consistently providing critical support to U.S. policymakers and those responding to the COVID-19 virus, which originated in China," the ODNI said in a statement. "The Intelligence Community also concurs with the wide scientific consensus that the COVID-19 virus was not manmade or genetically modified."

The ODNI said the intelligence community "will continue to rigorously examine emerging information and intelligence to determine whether the outbreak began through contact with infected animals or if it was the result of an accident at a laboratory in Wuhan."

Read more: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-us-intelligence-community-china-odni/

 

This isn't true. Just FOX news nonsense. Why do you repeat such things?