Foreign College Students Must Take In-Person Classes Or Face Deportation, ICE Says

Discussion in 'Politics' started by JoeNation, Jul 7, 2020.

  1. JoeNation
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    More short-sighted stupidity.... Foreigners Bad!

    As the pandemic surges in most states, many colleges and universities are still figuring out how or if they can reopen for the fall term.

    International students studying in the U.S. must leave the country or switch schools if they attend a university that will hold classes entirely online this fall due to the coronavirus pandemic, government officials said Monday.

    U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement announced the measure as cases of the virus continue to surge in most states around the country and many colleges and universities are still figuring out how or if they can reopen for the fall term.

    “Active students currently in the United States enrolled in such programs must depart the country or take other measures, such as transferring to a school with in-person instruction to remain in lawful status,” the agency said Monday, noting the shift applies to F-1 and M-1 visa holders. “If not, they may face immigration consequences including, but not limited to, the initiation of removal proceedings.”


    The change will not impact international students who take classes in person, but students at online-only schools that fail to leave or transfer may be deported.

    It’s unclear how many students the change could impact, or at what schools. Harvard made headlines this week after it said all course instruction for the 2020-21 academic year would be conducted online, although some students will be allowed to live on campus. The Verge reports schools must notify the Student and Exchange Visitor Program by July 15 if they will go entirely online, or by August 1 if they plan to use a hybrid model of online and in-person teaching.

    International students at hybrid schools can remain in the country as long as they have a certain number of in-person classes.

    NBC News notes international students make up 5.5 percent of the higher education population, or about 1.1 million students. Many schools rely on the fees paid by foreign students, who often pay full tuition.

    The Trump administration has continued to limit legal immigration and access to visas during the pandemic. The White House has moved to raise the bar for asylum seekers hoping to seek protection in the U.S. and also banned many categories of foreign workers through the end of the year.

    Many technology companies railed against Trump’s decision to restrict work visas last month, saying they will have difficulty hiring the thousands of skilled workers that come to the U.S. each year for specialized jobs.

    “President Trump’s latest proclamation uses the COVID-19 pandemic as justification for limiting immigration,” Facebook said last month. “In reality, the move to keep highly skilled talent out of the U.S. will make our country’s recovery even more difficult.”
     
  2. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Active Member

    what does it hurt to leave them in the country, spending their money?
     
  3. JoeNation
    Angelic

    JoeNation Patron Saint of Idiots

    It's just another way to ban brown people under the guise of doing something for American workers which it isn't at all.
     
  4. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Active Member

    after they spend 250k and graduate, offer them citizenship. problem solved
     
  5. toughcoins

    toughcoins Well-Known Member

    They can spend $250K taking courses on-line from overseas. Then we can offer them citizenship. Problem solved even better.
     
  6. JoeNation
    Angelic

    JoeNation Patron Saint of Idiots

    This idiotic ICE policy handed down from the Trump Administration has but one purpose. To force schools to hold in-person classes so that Trump will look better come fall. I can hear him now... "Schools are reopening, kids are going back to school, everything is just fine. I have done a beautiful job handling this corona virus." Yeah, right!

    As the Right-wing's plan to reopen the country flounders massively, they still continue to push for a return to normalcy in spite of the spiraling infection rates for the sole purpose of making Trump look better. The sickness and depravity of this egomaniac has no bounds. He cares only about what he wants and damn the consequences. I don't even know what to think of supporters of this monster. Covidians. Trump is the plague.

    The first reported case came on January 21.
    • Within 99 days, 1 million Americans became infected.
    • It took just 43 days after that to reach 2 million cases.
    • And 28 days later, the US reached 3 million cases of the novel coronavirus Wednesday.
    But yeah, let's open up the schools.

    And Trump wants to open schools next month given this graph.

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    Last edited: Jul 8, 2020
  7. JoeNation
    Angelic

    JoeNation Patron Saint of Idiots

    Basically, this is exactly what Trump is saying....

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  8. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Active Member


    WRONG. They won't be spending money on food, rent, gas, etc with your way. Are you xenophobic or just small minded?
     
  9. JoeNation
    Angelic

    JoeNation Patron Saint of Idiots

    Foreign students contribute 41 billion to the economy every year in this country. American education is a product that other countries are eager to pay for. This insane xenophobia that exists on the Right is just shooting us in the collective foot simply out of fear of the brown person.
     
  10. toughcoins

    toughcoins Well-Known Member

    Overlooking the fact that students spending $250K on their education won't have a pot to pee in does nothing to support your case.

    You've got too much tofu between the ears . . .
     
  11. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Active Member


    Most of them are rich where I live. You should roll out from under the bed once in awhile
     
  12. toughcoins

    toughcoins Well-Known Member

     
  13. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Active Member

    so the free market isn't the answer all of a sudden
     
  14. toughcoins

    toughcoins Well-Known Member

    You miss the point. The entire reason those foreign students were admitted to the country was to get an education offered only in-person. Now that most colleges have shifted to offering remote education because of COVID19, they need not be here. When, and if those curricula are once again offered only in-person, those students will be re-admitted.

    If they want to be here for another reason, they should have to reapply for a new, non-student visa.
     
  15. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Active Member


    why do you care?
     
  16. toughcoins

    toughcoins Well-Known Member

    For the same reason we have an immigration service at all. To ensure that people admitted through our borders are fully vetted, determined eligible, and approved for the requested duration and purpose.

    I know you don't give a crap, because you've got to skin your knees before you know you'll bleed . . . sorry, I like to think before I take action, not after.
     
  17. FryDaddyJr

    FryDaddyJr Active Member


    they are already here through an approval process. what are you afraid of?
     
  18. toughcoins

    toughcoins Well-Known Member

    They are here, screened by a process intended to admit them only for as long as they must meet a requirement to attend classes in person, which no longer exists.
     
  19. GeneWright

    GeneWright Active Member

    Oh please, just admit it's a political move to attempt to force colleges open making the COVID-19 crisis seem like it's not effecting us as bad as it is. Instead, the only effect I've seen is universities across the country creating a 1 credit class requiring in person attendence 1 day per semester. So cool, everyone involved's lives are a bit harder temporarily during a pandemic. Great work team
     
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  20. GeneWright

    GeneWright Active Member

    Exhibit A

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