Criminals vs Protesters

Discussion in 'Politics' started by JoeNation, Jun 2, 2020.

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What percentage best represents the number of criminals within the protest crowds?

Poll closed Jun 10, 2020.
  1. 1%

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  2. 3%

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  3. 5%

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  4. 10%

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  5. 25%

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  6. 50% and up

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  1. JoeNation
    Angelic

    JoeNation Patron Saint of Idiots

    I can't get a good sense of how some people think about those that have taken to the streets all over the country. It seems that some people think that they are all criminals (minus curfew violations) and others that think that there are very few criminals and that the vast majority of the protesters are simply there to make a statement.

    What is your opinion?
     
  2. Mopar Dude

    Mopar Dude Well-Known Member

    I can’t seem to make the poll work but I believe we have at least a 50/50 mix.
     
  3. JoeNation
    Angelic

    JoeNation Patron Saint of Idiots

    Maybe Peter didn't keep the software updated.
     
  4. GeneWright

    GeneWright Active Member

    That's wild. As someone on the ground in Minneapolis, I assure you it's less than 1% participating in criminal acts. Does that ease your mind? Seeing the crowds, I could imagine being pretty freaked out if I thought it was 50/50
     
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  5. JoeNation
    Angelic

    JoeNation Patron Saint of Idiots

    At least MD has the honesty and courage to answer a simple question. The other cowards would rather keep spewing nonsense without ever admitting to their own prejudices.
     
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  6. Mopar Dude

    Mopar Dude Well-Known Member

    We had a terrible violent outbreak here Saturday night. Now I am watching this from a distance (on TV). Saturday started with what I would guess to be maybe 100-200 folks outside the main police station. By Saturday night there were mobs going through the downtown streets destroying businesses. I am generalizing but I would surmise there were a hundred folks in the streets that night...... So in my city I would simply guess a 50/50 mix. Since then all protests have been peaceful. I rather believe those individuals that were looting and burning in my city were not from here. Seriously, we have an all inclusive and friendly community here and I am in the heart of the south. I couldn't speak to Minnesota.
     
  7. Mopar Dude

    Mopar Dude Well-Known Member

    Inside joke.... It tickles me when you call me MD..... Some years ago somebody in my bank labeled me as a doctor. Absolutely no idea how.... But when I get mail from my bank it is addressed to The Dr. & Mrs..... I know it is an inside joke, but when you call me MD it always gives me a chuckle.
     
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  8. JoeNation
    Angelic

    JoeNation Patron Saint of Idiots

    I'm just too damn lazy to write out Mopar Dude. Now I'm going to call you Dr. MD. Twice the pain. :)
     
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  9. SmalltownMN
    Doh

    SmalltownMN Active Member

    What does the percentage matter? It's a damn shame it happens at all. In all walks of life, it typically only takes one to screw it up for everybody, right? In this case, it goes both ways as well. Four cops and all of law enforcement is bad. A handful of criminals and all protesters are bad.
     
  10. JoeNation
    Angelic

    JoeNation Patron Saint of Idiots

    Courage please, then comment.
     
  11. GeneWright

    GeneWright Active Member

    So... You agree ACAB?
     
  12. SmalltownMN
    Doh

    SmalltownMN Active Member

    Good grief, grow up kid.

    There are plenty of law enforcement personnel in my area that I call friends. I grew up with a fellow that is a jailer. My next door neighbor to the north is on the city police department, my next door neighbor to the south is on county dispatch.

    I was on fire department for 17 years and was on many calls where use of force was in play.

    WTF does courage have to do with your poll? Man up your damn self and answer my question. What does the percentage matter?
     
  13. JoeNation
    Angelic

    JoeNation Patron Saint of Idiots

    Tell us where you stand or why should I bother with you. A little courage would go a long way.
     
  14. SmalltownMN
    Doh

    SmalltownMN Active Member

    Where I stand is having the knowledge that I'm talking to someone who has his head too far up his ass to know what's going on.
     
  15. JoeNation
    Angelic

    JoeNation Patron Saint of Idiots

    So much courage in the face of a simple question posed in the OP. Why did you even bother coming to this post? This one takes a little courage of your convictions which seems in short supply in your case.
     
  16. GeneWright

    GeneWright Active Member

    Goes on the attack without exposing themselves at all, sounds a little like Bunker Boy...
     
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  17. SmalltownMN
    Doh

    SmalltownMN Active Member

    Okay, Joe, I'll answer your question, but then you should also answer mine. Tit for tat.

    I think when the protests first started and a few days into it the percentage of criminals interspersed amongst the bonafide peaceful protesters was low - probably less than 10%. As the days have worn on I think the number gets higher. When we get into the cities that have invoked curfews - that number shoots to 100% if you are out protesting after curfew.
     
  18. toughcoins

    toughcoins Well-Known Member

    My opinion Joe?

    Demonstrators are just that. They peaceably gather and express their beliefs on the issues to try and sway those they believe have not been listening.

    Assailants physically attack others without defensive justification. They have no constitutional right to do so, and are criminals.

    Vandals deliberately damage or destroy public or private property. They have no constitutional right to do so, and are criminals.

    Arsonists deliberately set fire to public or private property. They have no constitutional right to do so, and are criminals.

    Looters deliberately steal public or private property. They have no constitutional right to do so, and are criminals.

    Any one who shows up to demonstrate, and cannot trust themselves to avoid violent frustration with those they cannot sway is asking for trouble, and knows that before arriving.

    What do I think Joe? I think there are some who should be there, and many who should not. Anyone who threw a punch, a bottle, a brick, a lit match belongs in jail.
     
  19. CoinBlazer

    CoinBlazer de omnibus dubitandum

    I don’t think it’s about how many people are criminals in the sense, but it’s more of what damage to life and property they have committed, no question millions of dollars worth of public and private damage across the country, and then not even to forget about the dozen people have died, police officers and civilians on both sides.
     

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