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    Widespread Vote Buying in Eastern Kentucky Revealed




    In this week’s voter fraud segment with Eric Shawn, he unveiled shocking details of drug dealers buying votes to steal elections after prosecutors revealed the widespread practice of buying and selling votes in Eastern Kentucky. One man he spoke with was paid $25 dollars by a candidate in a local election for his vote. Richard Moore told Shawn that just about everybody sells votes and while he thinks it needs to be stopped, he doesn't believe it will because “that’s where the money’s at.”

    Over the past two years, more than twenty public officials and others have been convicted in schemes to steal elections. Moore testified for the prosecution that he sold his vote to Michael Salyers, who was running for county magistrate. Salyers explained how the vote buying process

    took place, “The sellers in this situation, they would come to me and ask how much I was paying for votes … I said most I could pay you is $25 dollars.”

    He recalled one man who had four votes, so Salyers gave him $100 dollars. Salyers is currently spending 60 days in jail and says, “That’s the worst thing in this whole situation is the shame, is the people I let down.”

    US attorney for the Eastern District of Kentucky, Kerry Harvey, told Shawn that they believe drug money bought votes. In Clay County, prosecutors say that over the course of several elections, $400,000 dollars was spent to buy the votes of 8,000 voters for $50 dollars each. Harvey said, “These folks go out and literally hijack the local elections for their own purposes and then they use those jobs to enrich themselves and their confederates.”

    State officials are trying to clean up elections with a special voter integrity task force. Kentucky Attorney General Jack Conway expressed that, “If you sell you vote you’re selling the heart of democracy. If the government belongs to someone who’s out there buying votes rather than the free will of the people, then it doesn’t belong to everybody.”









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  2. PTD
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    What's the big deal? Congress has been selling their votes for years, why shouldn't everyone else?
     
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    By Jesse Richman and David Earnest October 24
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    Could control of the Senate in 2014 be decided by illegal votes cast by non-citizens? Some argue that incidents of voting by non-citizens are so rare as to be inconsequential, with efforts to block fraud a screen for an agenda to prevent poor and minority voters from exercising the franchise, while others define such incidents as a threat to democracy itself. Both sides depend more heavily on anecdotes than data.

    In a forthcoming article in the journal Electoral Studies, we bring real data from big social science survey datasets to bear on the question of whether, to what extent, and for whom non-citizens vote in U.S. elections. Most non-citizens do not register, let alone vote. But enough do that their participation can change the outcome of close races.

    Our data comes from the Cooperative Congressional Election Study (CCES). Its large number of observations (32,800 in 2008 and 55,400 in 2010) provide sufficient samples of the non-immigrant sub-population, with 339 non-citizen respondents in 2008 and 489 in 2010. For the 2008 CCES, we also attempted to match respondents to voter files so that we could verify whether they actually voted.

    How many non-citizens participate in U.S. elections? More than 14 percent of non-citizens in both the 2008 and 2010 samples indicated that they were registered to vote. Furthermore, some of these non-citizens voted. Our best guess, based upon extrapolations from the portion of the sample with a verified vote, is that 6.4 percent of non-citizens voted in 2008 and 2.2 percent of non-citizens voted in 2010.

    Estimated Voter Turnout by Non-Citizens

    2008 2010
    Self reported and/or verified 38 (11.3%) 13 (3.5%)
    Self reported and verified 5 (1.5%) N.A.
    Adjusted estimate 21 (6.4%) 8 (2.2%)
    Because non-citizens tended to favor Democrats (Obama won more than 80 percent of the votes of non-citizens in the 2008 CCES sample), we find that this participation was large enough to plausibly account for Democratic victories in a few close elections. Non-citizen votes could have given Senate Democrats the pivotal 60th vote needed to overcome filibusters in order to pass health-care reform and other Obama administration priorities in the 111th Congress. Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) won election in 2008 with a victory margin of 312 votes. Votes cast by just 0.65 percent of Minnesota non-citizens could account for this margin. It is also possible that non-citizen votes were responsible for Obama’s 2008 victory in North Carolina. Obama won the state by 14,177 votes, so a turnout by 5.1 percent of North Carolina’s adult non-citizens would have provided this victory margin.

    We also find that one of the favorite policies advocated by conservatives to prevent voter fraud appears strikingly ineffective. Nearly three quarters of the non-citizens who indicated they were asked to provide photo identification at the polls claimed to have subsequently voted.

    An alternative approach to reducing non-citizen turnout might emphasize public information. Unlike other populations, including naturalized citizens, education is not associated with higher participation among non-citizens. In 2008, non-citizens with less than a college degree were significantly more likely to cast a validated vote, and no non-citizens with a college degree or higher cast a validated vote. This hints at a link between non-citizen voting and lack of awareness about legal barriers.

    There are obvious limitations to our research, which one should take account of when interpreting the results. Although the CCES sample is large, the non-citizen portion of the sample is modest, with the attendant uncertainty associated with sampling error. We analyze only 828 self-reported non-citizens. Self-reports of citizen status might also be a source of error, although the appendix of our paper shows that the racial, geographic, and attitudinal characteristics of non-citizens (and non-citizen voters) are consistent with their self-reported status.

    Another possible limitation is the matching process conducted by Catalist to verify registration and turnout drops many non-citizen respondents who cannot be matched. Our adjusted estimate assumes the implication of a “registered” or “voted” response among those who Catalist could not match is the same as for those whom it could. If one questions this assumption, one might focus only on those non-citizens with a reported and validated vote. This is the second line of the table.

    Finally, extrapolation to specific state-level or district-level election outcomes is fraught with substantial uncertainty. It is obviously possible that non-citizens in California are more likely to vote than non-citizens in North Carolina, or vice versa. Thus, we are much more confident that non-citizen votes mattered for the Minnesota Senate race (a turnout of little more than one-tenth of our adjusted estimate is all that would be required) than that non-citizen votes changed the outcome in North Carolina.

    Our research cannot answer whether the United States should move to legalize some electoral participation by non-citizens as many other countries do, and as some U.S. states did for more than 100 years, or find policies that more effectively restrict it. But this research should move that debate a step closer to a common set of facts.
     
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    Just in case you missed it, that is 1.2 MILLION non-citizens who voted in 2010!!!!!
     
  5. CoinOKC
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    Why buy votes when the Democrats can simply rig the voting machines in their favor? This case is from (where else?) Illinois:

    Video Appears To Capture Votes Being Switched From Republican To Democrat In Illinois
    Joe Schoffstall, Capitol City Project

    An Illinois man was well aware of the stories dealing with votes being switched from Republican to Democrat on touch voting machines in his county and decided to record his own results using the camera on his phone.



    What exactly did he capture as he was voting? His votes appear to be marked Democrat even though he is trying to vote Republican. The video is slowed down at points to show where his finger is landing.

    http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/10/3...s-being-switched-republican-democrat-illinois
     
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    Brainless idiots who insist there is no voter fraud happening are... well... brainless idiots:


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    Massive Non-Citizen Voting Uncovered in Maryland

    By Bryan Preston, PJ Media

    An election integrity watchdog group is suing the state of Maryland, alleging that it has discovered massive and ongoing fraudulent voting by non-U.S. citizens in one county. But because of the way that the non-citizens are able to cast votes in elections, the fraud is likely happening in every single county and subdivision across the state. The group believes that the illegal voting has been happening for years.

    The group, Virginia Voters Alliance, says that it compared how voters in Frederick County filled out jury duty statements compared with their voting records. The group’s investigation found that thousands of people in Frederick County who stated that they are not U.S. citizens on jury duty forms went on to cast votes in elections. Either they failed to tell the truth when they were summoned for jury duty, or they cast illegal votes. Both are crimes. The same group previously found that about 40,000 people are registered to vote in both Virginia and Maryland.

    It is a federal crime to cast votes if you are not legally eligible to vote. Non-citizens, whether in the country legally or not, are prohibited from voting in most local and all state and federal elections. Yet the VVA investigation found that hundreds of non-citizens have been voting in Frederick County, Maryland. One in seven Maryland residents are non-U.S. citizens.

    “The lawsuit is the equivalent of the lookout spotting the iceberg ahead of the Titanic,” state Del. Pat McDonough told the Tatler. He added that the group’s investigation found a voter fraud “smoking gun.”

    Maryland state law makes it easier for non-citizens, both those present legally and those in the country against the law, to vote. Maryland issues drivers licenses to legal and illegal aliens. Driver’s licenses in turn make it easier under the Motor Voter law to register to vote. Maryland also offers copious taxpayer-funded social programs to non-citizens in the state.

    The group filed suit in Baltimore’s U.S. District Court on Friday. They are suing the Frederick County Board of Elections and the Maryland State Board of Elections.

    http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/10/30/massive-non-citizen-voting-uncovered-maryland
     
  7. CoinOKC
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    This isn't voter fraud, but the Democrats will resort to anything to try to win elections. Stupid Democrats. I hope they throw this bum in jail:

    Warrant issued for husband of Delaware lawmaker over GOP sign swiping

    October 30, 2014

    WASHINGTON – Police in Delaware are looking for the husband of a state senator who was caught on video taking down political signs put up by Republican challengers.

    Middletown police reportedly have issued an arrest warrant for Dana Armon Long, the husband of state Sen. Bethany Hall-Long, for allegedly stealing campaign signs.

    Police responded Wednesday following complaints about the repeated theft of the political signs.

    In a video that was posted to YouTube on Wednesday, Long is shown carrying an armful of Republican signs. The takedown was filmed early Wednesday morning and was posted online. In the clip, which was taken over several hours, a man with a video camera appears to take Long by surprise.

    The man videotaping Long asks him, “What are you doing this for?” to which Long replies, “Hey, don’t stop me."

    Long did not comment on the allegations when contacted by the Delaware News Journal.

    Both Republican and Democratic party leaders condemned the thefts on Wednesday.

    "When you only have a track record of high taxes, unemployment and lower wages for private sector employees to stand on, the Democrats must resort to breaking the law to win elections because they are scared of being held accountable for their dismal performance," John Fluharty, executive director of the state GOP, said in a written statement to the newspaper.

    John Daniello, chairman of the state Democratic Party, said in a statement that, "Each campaign season, we deal with candidates removing their opponent's signs. This behavior is absolutely unacceptable. There are more positive ways in which to support your candidate regardless of party affiliation."

    If he’s found guilty of the Class A misdemeanor, Long could spend up to a year in prison and face a $2,300 fine.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...e-state-senator-for-stealing-taking-down-gop/
     

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